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it is definitly at Fluid. It was moved from New Market Cabaret. Jeff

quoted 22 lines I understand that Amon Tobin/Spacetime Continuum/Irresistible Force will

>> > I understand that Amon Tobin/Spacetime Continuum/Irresistible Force will >> > descend upon the miniscule and aesthetically grottoesque club >> Fluid, known >> > for its minisculity and mad mod design. >> > This Monday eve. > >is this correct? > >from the (old) ninja site when its up i had: >>> >>Sun 27 September USA, Philadelphia, New Mkt Cabaret Mixmaster Morris, Amon >Tobin + Jonah Sharpe ><< >is Fluid at the New Mkt Cabaret, and what's w/ the sun/mon dates (or is it >both)? > >sorry i don't know philly well, and i'm unexpectedly going to be here thru, >the weekend and thought i might go along, and now i'm confused. > >pennsylvanian idmr's to the rescue, please. > >-martin

quoted 6 lines What do you know? A tour that supposedly wants " $3000 " playing tiny

>What do you know? A tour that supposedly wants " $3000 " playing tiny >places that could never gross that much. Hmm, wonder if a certain booking >agent isn't just talking out of two sides of his mouth. > >- I would have gladly plunked down $1000 for these folks to do a >show on their supposed "day off" (but *not* " $3000 ").

I'm moved to respond so that Ninja and our booking agent don't come off looking like assholes... The point is, you were looking to book the show the same weekend that we already had other shows booked. Washington on the Friday, Philly on the Sunday. Saturday was a day off. If we were to give you a show that weekend, it would have ment cancelling 1 of these shows. Therefore we would need to get the same guarantee as the one we would be losing, plus ad on the extra costs of re-booking flights for 4 people to your show, plus re-booking flights for the 4 people to get back to the next destination (which was NY. As we were booked in Philly the night before, it's an easy/cheap drive to NY). All these things come into play when our agent is making his descisions, so hence that is the price he arrived at to make it feasible for us to do the show you wanted. There is no way we would have booked anything on their Saturday day off, as that would have ment they would have done 9 shows in a row (anyone who has ever toured knows that kind of run turns you into a walking sleeping person who has no interest in mixing records...sure Black Flag and Minor Threat could do it back in the day, but our artists aren't nearly that hardcore). Our tours are not cash grabs (we always lose money touring), and if our booking agent didn't explain all the above to you, it's only because he has a million other things to deal with. He gets paid to lose us as little money as possible, and that's all he was doing. Hopefully that clears things up. Take Care Jeff

quoted 4 lines Our tours are not cash grabs (we always lose money touring), and if our

> Our tours are not cash grabs (we always lose money touring), and if our > booking agent didn't explain all the above to you, it's only because he > has a million other things to deal with. He gets paid to lose us as > little money as possible, and that's all he was doing.

Actually, I am almost *sure* that it got mentioned a tour or two back when some dates got cancelled or something like that that the tour was losing alot of money (among other things) I sort of recall it because I thought that it *really* was too bad that a bunch of Ninjas would not be racking in the $ on tour (aren't tours typically where some $ is made for bands?) Anyhow... brap@sonic.net[icq: 12645306] http://www.sonic.net/~brap/ sfwd prod | noisesoundnoise chris g. 1547 boston court #7, santa rosa, ca 95405

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quoted 3 lines we did in April lost a couple dates due to promoter flakiness and the

>we did in April lost a couple dates due to promoter flakiness and the >bizarre police state that was going on in Baltimore around that time. >That said, we always lose some money.

Which I will have to note as hopefully passed. This summer was used as a stepping stone and one big party (Sunrise4) went off without a hitch which offers good for Bmore. Earlier in the year, the Sonic Soul crew was forced to abandon JHU which hosted some Cloudwatch gatherings and move to the Head Theatre (which was fantastic). Coming back to Bmore this fall and so forth is some great stuff. Besides MMM,Amon, STC, Vibert, Qburns, MMM again. Plus Global Communications coming to DC on Thanksgiving weekend. Everything is back green. TeknoCon teknocon@flash.net