quoted 2 lines From: "kiya \"i am a copier\" babzani" <denial@ix.netcom.com>
>From: "kiya \"i am a copier\" babzani" <denial@ix.netcom.com>
>Subject: Re: (idm)idm was different..cryosleep disengaged...back in the
day. believe it. MARKANT RANT.
quoted 4 lines the whole markant thing is making me furious.
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>the whole markant thing is making me furious.
>about 250 copies" now, somebody enlighten me about why markant needs a
>picture disc limited to 250? i mean what is the point to releasing
only 500
quoted 1 line copies worldwide of every 12" you put out?
>copies worldwide of every 12" you put out?
Yeah agreed completely. I have a problem with labels who deliberately
limit what they release continually - if the label doesn't have much
cash and can only press a few copies, then thats understandable. Warp
and other labels are different IMO in that they don't revolve solely
around limited releases - they do it now and again as a 'sweetner',
something that if you're a Warp fan, you're going to appreciate a lot
more. And remember that they've done a good job in doing the opposite
and making rarer music more accessable (Black Dog, Squarepusher, etc.),
espcially in the CD market.
The limited nature of a lot of IDM labels (V/Vm, Markant, the Mask
series, etc.) is bad I think for the IDM 'scene' because it's going to
become intractable and anal as a genre, appealing only to those rich
enough and anal enough to be able to buy imports - thats liable to
stagnate. Its also to the detriment of the label as well as the musical
genre because these limited records are then sold on at much higher
costs which the label and the artist never sees.
If theres a demand for a record/label/artist and the label can afford to
press up to the demand, it doesn't make any sense not to. The fans are
happy cos they can get a copy they don't have to pay over the odds to
get, the artist is happy as she gets more royalties and the label is
happy because it gets more money to do the next record.
Actually, let me modify my comments a bit - I don't actually have a
problem with a particular label doing continued limited releases but
when the whole genre starts moving in that direction because of the
kudos associated with limited releases, I think thats bad.
quoted 2 lines and don't flame me saying how
>and don't flame me saying how
>that's only how many he would sell,
Yeah, he could probably shift a 1000 if he spaced out his releases a lot
more. And remember the more you press (and hopefully, sell), the more
return you get back on each record sold as each unit cost for the 12"
(and sleeve etc.) is much less. I use MPO and financially (as long as
you can sell the records of course!) it makes much more sense to press
1000 copies than it does to press 500. Of course, if you're a new label
without much cash, thats a moot point. Markant ain't though - those
silver sleeves cost a bit more than standard black disco bags. And
picture discs cost a lot more than standard normal-thickness black
vinyl.
quoted 1 line my only point was that i think the whole limited thing has gotten to
>my only point was that i think the whole limited thing has gotten to
alot of
quoted 1 line the labels' heads, AND the artists.
>the labels' heads, AND the artists.
Yep. Its become IDMs' USP.
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