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1998-09-18 04:21clockwise>I think the opposite (from my perspective). Too many US MCs get all caught >up in gangsta

From:: clockwise <clockwis@mail.execpc.com>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 23:21:42 -0500
Subject:: Re: (idm) Ice/Lyricists/Apologies.

quoted 4 lines I think the opposite (from my perspective). Too many US MCs get all caught

>I think the opposite (from my perspective). Too many US MCs get all caught >up in gangsta fronting and lack any true thought. Barely any intelligence >since the days of Ice-T (_OG_) and PE (_Nation of Millions_). Today's US >MCs haven't said a damn thing besides "40s, gats, and booty!".

Yes. 99% of major label hiphop is utter crap. I think hiphop is at an all-time low for intelligence in the mainstream, because its not in vogue anymore. However, crews like Heiroglyphics, Latyrx, Jeru, Poor Righteous Teachers, Goodie Mob, Outkast, and Aceyalone are keeping integrity alive. I dont want to turn this into a US vs UK thing, all i said was i havent HEARD any good MCs from Europe. Everyone on big dada except for roots manuva sucks in my opinion, and jazz fudge shit is just way too fucking expensive to buy without hearing first, and try as i might, Westwood wont come in on my radio (damn that ocean). If you or anyone else from the UK are interested in trading tapes of conscious hiphop, i will gladly do so. peace clockwise np: Ollano (wannabe Portishead with french vox. thumbs down)

1998-09-18 19:58mltsntAt 11:21 PM 9/17/98 -0500, clockwise wrote: >>Everyone on big dada except for roots manuva

From:: mltsnt <multsanta@sprynet.com>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 15:58:37 -0400
Subject:: hip hop will rock n shock the nation [Re: (idm) Ice/Lyricists/Apologies.]
Reply to:: Re: (idm) Ice/Lyricists/Apologies.

At 11:21 PM 9/17/98 -0500, clockwise wrote:

quoted 1 line Everyone on big dada except for roots manuva sucks in my opinion,

>>Everyone on big dada except for roots manuva sucks in my opinion,

WHAT!?!! I hope you mean every *BRIT* on Big Dada! The Ab Rude & Saul Williams 12"s are both fucking sweet! At 03:04 AM 9/18/98 -0400, Arthur B. Purvis wrote:

quoted 5 lines Oh yeah, and how does the Mos Def/Kweli 12" compare to their track on

>Oh yeah, and how does the Mos Def/Kweli 12" compare to their track on >Soundbombing? I think it was Fortified Live (correct me if I'm wrong) - I >thought it was pretty dull, but a good friend who listens to almost >exclusively hiphop thought it was one of the best tracks he's heard in a >long time.

IMHO, the beats on the Mos/Kweli 12" are on a much darker/more 'hardcore' tip than 'fortified live', which lyrically was excellent, but was kinda overly funky/upbeat. I like the blackstar much better, 'definition' is just a sweet track all around excellent. the b-side is a 'twice inna lifetime', which is actually a remix of 'fortified...', minus Mr. Mann and +Jane Doe, Punch & Words (the Jane Doe verse is pretty weak in comparision to the others, and both Punchline and Wordsworth come off strong, as opposed to on Lyricists Lounge, were one of them [punch? i'm not sure who's who] sounded mad wack.). Actually, i also think the Mos & Kweli verses are new also (it basically retians the hook from the original). But at this point, don't get the 12" unless you want the insturmentals, as the LP comes out tuesday and has both tracks. Track listing: Intro / 8th Light / Definition / Redefinition / Children's Story / Brown Skin Lady /B Boys will B Boys / Knowledge Of Self / Hater Players / Yo Yeah / Respiration /Thieves in the Night / Twice Inna Lifetime At 11:05 AM 9/18/98 -0700, wash@sirius.com wrote:

quoted 1 line np: Company Flow - "End to End Burners" single

>np: Company Flow - "End to End Burners" single

uggh.. there's a rumor floating around RMHH that Big Juss left the group.. say it aint so! i guess now it's just El-P and that dj who's name i can never remember... btw, what can anyone tell me about the new(ish) J-Treds (indelible mcs) 12" on fondle 'em? good? later, mlt ml/vn// [o{st}m.rec]

1998-09-19 00:11mltsntRE: 'Kweli& Mos Def are Blackstar' i said: >LP comes out tuesday whoops, slight error on m

From:: mltsnt <multsanta@sprynet.com>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 20:11:43 -0400
Subject:: (idm) Re: blackstar
Reply to:: hip hop will rock n shock the nation [Re: (idm) Ice/Lyricists/Apologies.]

RE: 'Kweli& Mos Def are Blackstar' i said:

quoted 1 line LP comes out tuesday

>LP comes out tuesday

whoops, slight error on my part- the LP actually comes out the FOLLOWING tuesday, the 29th!! ...sorry! m

hip hop will rock n shock the nation [Re: (idm) Ice/Lyricists/Apologies.]