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quoted 7 lines Hello fellow IDMers. Forgive me for sounding ignorant, but I heard that

> Hello fellow IDMers. Forgive me for sounding ignorant, but I heard that > contemporary composer Philip Glass has had a significant impact on shaping > the early days of IDM. If this is so, could you please provide me with > information and pointers to websites which explain exactly how his music > was an influence on the genre? Furthermore, does anyone here listen to and > like Philip Glass' music? Thank you very much. >

I just last week went and saw Koyaanisqatsi , which is a movie he scored , and was quite impressed .. although it proved to me that Rob Hubbard is not quite as clever as first thought , as it proved that he imitated the music from Koyaanisqatsi so closely in the Commodore 64 game Delta , as to be unforgivable :) But of the little I have heard of Glass , I usually find it quite uninteresting (mainly Einstein on the Beach, which my former housemate used to have sex to! maybe that put me off .. ) idm related .. here's an excerpt from an interview: Barrett: How do you feel about mainstream music? Music that the younger generation listens to. Glass: Tell me what that is. Lee Velo (photographer): As opposed to classical you mean? Barrett: Right, as opposed to opera and classical. Glass: You mean people like Natalie Merchant, people like...I know a lot of those people and I work with them too. I did a record arrangement, a song arrangement for Dorissa Monte. Do you know her? A Brazilian, a beautiful Brazilian singer. And I did an arrangement for Susan Vega, for one of her records. I have a lot of friends who work in the field of popular and commercial music. There's another young guy named Mayfax Twin who's a guy, a dance-music guy from London. I just did a remix of his music. And now he's going to do a remix of my music. I'm in touch with that world. hoho .. someone made a typo , or maybe it wasn't such a memorable experience for old Phil :) Tim.

quoted 8 lines Hello fellow IDMers. Forgive me for sounding ignorant, but I heard that

>Hello fellow IDMers. Forgive me for sounding ignorant, but I heard that >contemporary composer Philip Glass has had a significant impact on shaping >the early days of IDM. If this is so, could you please provide me with >information and pointers to websites which explain exactly how his music >was an influence on the genre? Furthermore, does anyone here listen to and >like Philip Glass' music? Thank you very much. > >

I'm sure many IDM creators have listened to Glass's music. Other links: Aphex and Glass also did a collaboration album. Glass's "Low Symphony" is based on the album by Eno/Bowie. Colourbox did a Glass tribute track. 3

Groups such as mu-Ziq, The Orb and Underworld have claimed Phillip Glass as a big influence. Sonically, it seems to come out in the use of layered arppegiated patterns. For example, "Dance 2" from mu-Ziq's Bluff Limbo definitely has that Phillip Glass sound. Also, Aphex Twin worked with Mr. Glass on a version of Icct Hedral. On a similar note, that guitar line from The Orb's "Little Fluffy Clouds" was lifted from Steve Reich's "Electric Counterpoint." The Nov/Dec 1997 issue of Option has a decent article on Minimalism and electronics. At 01:23 AM 8/23/98 -0700, stowe@biosys.net wrote:

quoted 12 lines Hello fellow IDMers. Forgive me for sounding ignorant, but I heard that

>Hello fellow IDMers. Forgive me for sounding ignorant, but I heard that >contemporary composer Philip Glass has had a significant impact on shaping >the early days of IDM. If this is so, could you please provide me with >information and pointers to websites which explain exactly how his music >was an influence on the genre? Furthermore, does anyone here listen to and >like Philip Glass' music? Thank you very much. > >-Merced Flem > > > >

-------------------------------- Rodney Perkins (mailto:rdperkins@earthlink.net) Pentaradial Press http://www.pentaradial.com

On Sun, 23 Aug 1998, Rodney Perkins wrote:

quoted 2 lines On a similar note, that guitar line from The Orb's "Little Fluffy

> On a similar note, that guitar line from The Orb's "Little Fluffy > Clouds" was lifted from Steve Reich's "Electric Counterpoint."

yes - a 12/8 loop with the first four notes re-tacked to the end. interesting. * #### a disturbance in a system. #### laerm. @voicenet.com #### a fortune cookie i ate 08/06/98 told me: "a girlfriend is a wine bottle. a wife is a bottle of wine."

Colourbox did a track called 'Philip Glass' way back in 1986.

quoted 3 lines Groups such as mu-Ziq, The Orb and Underworld have claimed Phillip Glass as

>Groups such as mu-Ziq, The Orb and Underworld have claimed Phillip Glass as >a big influence. Sonically, it seems to come out in the use of layered >arppegiated patterns.

I think some of this is over-stated in the Option article. I asked Michael Paradinas about minimalism when he was on tour with Bjork and he said he had never listened to Glass, Nyman etc. The repeating fragments in his music are due to the functions of the keyboards he works with, not because he studied minimalism. I think the techno that is more resembles minimalism is trance. See the article I wrote below:

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Minimal Techno Vs Minimalism All repetitive music is the same, or is it? Rock & roll established the culture of the repetitive hook, as classicks like the Stones "Satisfaction" are nothing more than simple vocal and guitar riffs repeated over radio-friendly time periods. Minimal techno works in the same way, but it evolved from Detroit techno and Chicago house, who's repetition is rhythm-oriented and aimed at the dancefloor. As techno developed from the producer's studio to the DJ's set and back again, there were those who concentrated on the essential elements - the pumping beats - stripping them bare of decorations like melody and harmony. Now this reduction sounds like the path trod by the 20th century Minimalists Glass, Reich etc, but is it the same? The origin of 'Minimalism' is in rhythmic structures, not Western dance music but those of non-Western cultures. Philip Glass learned from transcribing Ravi Shankar's Indian music and Steve Reich studied African drumming. Even so the techno that sounds most like Philip Glass is trance, where arpeggiated figures of notes going up and down are programmed to repeat in the manner of his 1969 pieces 'Music In Similar Motion' or 'Music In Fifths'. Ask any German trance producer, who are probably of an average age of 25, and they might have heard of Glass' soundtrack for Koyaanisqatsi, but more likely they'll tell you their favorite album is Pink Floyd's The Wall... If you are looking for programmed electronic rhythms the original source is their countrymen Tangerine Dream, who were the first to record such sounds and who's Virgin-era albums have more of a connection to the trance of Sven Vath etc. What does Richie Hawtin think? "There are some reference points. Right now producers with dance backgrounds are developing interests in different theories, which correspond to music and other things. The two minimal musics are not joined but do cross. Philip Glass worked with Aphex Twin and earlier he remixed S'Express, so there are slight points where techno and Minimalism come together."

On Sun, 23 Aug 1998 13:12:06 EDT <Sndbyte@aol.com> writes:

quoted 3 lines Colourbox did a track called 'Philip Glass' way back in 1986.

>Colourbox did a track called 'Philip Glass' way back in 1986. > >

King Missile did a spoken work/song called "Glass" about PG th@ make fun of how egocentric he is. quite funny U know. "HAY, hay look at me! I'm Philip Glass! hay, look at me over here!" "Moon Scepter............Elimination!" -Sailor Moon (Serena) "Venus Crescent-beam.......Smash!" -Sailor Venus (Mina) "Mars Fire..........................Ignite!" -Sailor Mars (Raye) "Jupiter Thunder..................Crash!" -Sailor Jupiter (Leeta) "Mercury Bubbles...............Blast!" -Sailor Mercury (Amy) _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]