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1998-08-07 14:30Peter Becker (idm) Auctions, Reckankreuzungsklankewerkzeuge recommendation
└─ 1998-08-07 15:46sfwd productions Re: (idm) Reckankreuzungsklankewerkzeuge recommendation
└─ 1998-08-08 05:06Lance C McGannon Re: (idm) phthalocyanine
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1998-08-07 14:30Peter BeckerAfter reading this, as an occasional auctioneer ( remember the SKAM001 auction ? ) I thoug
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After reading this, as an occasional auctioneer ( remember the SKAM001 auction ? ) I though I'd add: The best way *I've* done auctions, though certainly not the best and always open to suggestions, is something like this: You solicit an auction to a list, such as IDM. You post the items, privately, off list so as not to clog up an already clogged list ( HINT HINT!!!) Has'nt Aran kindly asked us to stop posting lists? You set an auction open and closing day. Like, opens on the 5th, closes on the 12th or something like that. You also set up a day when *all* bids will be posted to all *bidders*. This ideally is once in a bidding period. So, if it's a one week auction, post an update once. For two weeks, twice. This is not a rule, just a preference. You receive bids. Then on a given day that you have disclosed, you email *all* bidders *all* bids. Basically, if you did'nt bid, you don't get bothered with receivigng unwanted emails. After doing this, you cite the item, the highest bid but not the identity of the bidder. However, you may choose to cite a list of bidders email names. This way, to make sure that the auctioneer is not creating a false bid ascension as Mark Stevens has mentioned below...it does happen. This way, any bidder can email any other fellow bidder like, "bob@internet.com" and say, "hey bob@internet.com, is it possible that *anyone* in this auction would have bid $10,000 for Richard James pubic hair? Is this auctionerer for real?" A key closure to an auction is to make sure that on the last day of an auction, you post the high bids on two or three occasions over a day's time, with the bidders names to *all* of the participating bidders. This way everyone gets a chance at winning a bid and also the auctioneer has made his rep public and accountable. One problem with this is that there are several time zones to deal with should your auction be worldwide. I have'nt figured this out. It's unfortunate that if I post high bids on a last day, someone in Melbourne has to read his/her email at 3:30 am to match a bid. Auctions are not perfect endeavors, but I have tried to do them fairly and always solicit ideas to improve them. Bad auctioneers also get bad reps real quick so if someone is dishonest, you can be sure their name will be spread around like poo poo. Tip: beware of an auctioneers name that reads like 10-20 other email names. I think anyone who maintains several identities in the internet has something to hide, like a bad rep. I'm sure we all have stories to tell. Also, never bid to an auctioneer with a hotmail account! Surely you know why. Good luck, buyers and sellers! Thanks, Peter np: Neu tribute ( some great material here, unexpected...) nxt: Hecker IT0161975 ( a-fucking mazing....anyone heard the negative track yet? Gilly posted a review of the NYC PS1 show to the ambient list but not to IDM... anyone else enjoy the noise fest?) RECOMMENDATION: Our man at Reckankreuzungsklankewerkzeuge has made a killer mix CD. Well recorded, well mixed and stylistically varied enough to bear the transition from head bobbing to foot stompin'. A track listing that would impress any IDM snob, too. The fact that a track listing is included at *all* is exceptional enough. I don't know if these are available yet, you may want to post queries to this list as he is a member. Dope.
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Date: Thu, 06 Aug 1998 22:40:06 GMT From: mark@sonance.demon.co.uk (Mark Stevens) Subject: Re: (idm) Gescom "Sounds Of Machines" auctions No, it's just a few people jumping on the auction bandwagon, realising it's a good way to make as much money as they can out of a particular rare bit of vinyl. Nothing wrong in that, of course, but some of these auctions can sound a bit dodgy -- how do you know you're genuinely bidding against someone else, or just responding to the auctioneer's attempts to artificially bump up the price? I know one bloke who tried to auction something in this group earlier this year. I emailed him a few bids, but he kept responding with something like, "Oh, someone else has just bumped up the offer by a tenner!" It started getting ridiculous, so I pulled out. A few weeks later, the bloke was trying to sell the same thing again.
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1998-08-07 15:46sfwd productions> RECOMMENDATION: Our man at Reckankreuzungsklankewerkzeuge has made > a killer mix CD. We
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quoted 7 lines RECOMMENDATION: Our man at Reckankreuzungsklankewerkzeuge has made> RECOMMENDATION: Our man at Reckankreuzungsklankewerkzeuge has made > a killer mix CD. Well recorded, well mixed and stylistically varied enough > to bear > the transition from head bobbing to foot stompin'. A track listing that would > impress any IDM snob, too. The fact that a track listing is included at *all* > is exceptional enough. I don't know if these are available yet, you may want > to post queries to this list as he is a member. Dope.
Any details? Anyone? Music (mix tapes / cds) is about the only thing that gets me through a day of work anymore... its been constantly over 100 outside and I work in room size fridges... needless to say, after spending 6-10 hours in there @ 35 degrees and walking out to the 100+ degrees, I need something real good to inspire me... speaking of which =) recent new material for me: v/a highways over gardens (carpet bomb) - what can i say... these guys release great stuff... very disappointed that the microstudio wasn't anything new, but still great stuff on a whole... the jazzy track by kundalini (?) absolutely blew me away! phthalocyanine 'navy warshp;' (phthalo) - had heard alot of people talking but finially forced myself to get it after james@vvm told me that it was well worth my while checking out... wish i'd listened to lance m all that while back =) unexpected noise level (not talking volume here) makes this gem... phthalocyanine 'virdian ep' (phthalo) - quick listen as it just came today... not as out there and 'experimental' as navy warship, sounded alot more beat oriented... very nice though... like i said, only one listen musical nature 'forgotten textures' (demo) - holy shite! got this for as material for a noise / ambient comp i'm putting together... *really* good stuff... an excellent blend of idm - ambient - spacy material... i'm probably going to rant and rave and post an url and info in a separate post on this one =) jowonio productions 'compression' (jowonio prod) - got the tape of this a while back and fell in love with it... received the cd-r release of this a few weeks back and have been far too lazy to make mention of it... great blend of electronic beats, dark and weird textures and spoken word. hard to pin down and describe but highly recommended if you're open to something a little different... also, jowonio prod were on vvm002 (pffr) and the recent map one comp (among other releases) got tunes of great new stuff, but above is whats getting far too much play! ^brap@sonic.net^ [icq: 12645306] http://www.sonic.net/~brap/ [blackdog][v/vm][jamesbernarddiscography]...etc etc etc sfwd.dyn.ml.org [occasional web.irc.ftp.etc]]] chris g. 1547 boston court #7, santa rosa, ca 95405
1998-08-08 05:06Lance C McGannonAt 08:46 AM 8/7/98 -0700, you wrote: > >phthalocyanine 'navy warshp;' (phthalo) - had hear
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At 08:46 AM 8/7/98 -0700, you wrote:
quoted 7 lines phthalocyanine 'navy warshp;' (phthalo) - had heard alot of people talking> >phthalocyanine 'navy warshp;' (phthalo) - had heard alot of people talking > but finially forced myself to get it after james@vvm told me that it > was well worth my while checking out... wish i'd listened to lance m > all that while back =) unexpected noise level (not talking volume > here) makes this gem... >
i told you so. : )
quoted 3 lines phthalocyanine 'virdian ep' (phthalo) - quick listen as it just came today...>phthalocyanine 'virdian ep' (phthalo) - quick listen as it just came today... > not as out there and 'experimental' as navy warship, sounded alot > more beat oriented... very nice though... like i said, only one
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Actually this one is a re-release of phthalo's first record on plug research originally releaesed back in 1996. So that is why the style is a little different than that heard on his more recent releases like the Navy Warships cd or The Logan ep. In my opinion, The Viridian ep sounds a lot like modern day Autechre but done almost two years ago! It shows you how long Phthalo has been doing good stuff. Check the phthalo discography at the url below to see what else phthalocyanine has done... http://pivotonline.com/Phtdiscog.html -->-Lance--- p.o. box 450715 westlake, ohio 44145 united states