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1998-08-05 17:12(idm) Intelligent breaks/trip-hop
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1998-08-05 17:12cevallos@juno.comIt looks like my buddy and I are going to set up residency at a club here up at school (Pe
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It looks like my buddy and I are going to set up residency at a club here up at school (Penn State). We are trying to cater to a college town atmosphere w/o selling out and spinning disgusting Puffy. At the same time, I have to recognize that dnb might not fly over too well at first. We figure that my partner will house it with the 4/4 and I'll spin hip hop (da real shit -- no commercial caca) and trip-hop type stuff. I do not own any Icey, nor do I intend to buy any, but can somebody point me in the direction of some of the better stuff out there that could actually have cross-over appeal? Maybe I should even dabble into the better side of big beat... Also, does anybody have any tips on how to bring a non-traditional crowd into the more intelligent side of electronic music? We know that it won't be overnight, and we'll probably have to still deal with the stupid "play some spice girls" request, but we want to expose people to all this music we constantly discuss on this list. Any and all leads are welcome... Peace, Pedro Cevallos -- "Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans" -- John Lennon -- http://www.cat.net/~cevallos/ _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]
1998-08-05 17:40zimbo> Also, does anybody have any tips on how to bring a non-traditional crowd > into the more
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quoted 5 lines Also, does anybody have any tips on how to bring a non-traditional crowd> Also, does anybody have any tips on how to bring a non-traditional crowd > into the more intelligent side of electronic music? We know that it > won't be overnight, and we'll probably have to still deal with the stupid > "play some spice girls" request, but we want to expose people to all this > music we constantly discuss on this list.
yeah. dont give up. if something happens long enough, slowly people will come back, and bring more people with them. no shit. we did this thing here is socal called "green eggs and ham" (silly name, yeah, but it was damn fun!). music ran from trance to house to idm-ish stuff to jungle to ambient to hardcore to whatever.. kind of an anything goes type atmosphere.. there was even some merzbow and nurse with wound at some point it was a sunday daytime thing in the park.. we did small bits of promotion, got some flyers out (literally the size of 1/2 business card). it was also in orange county, a place that doesnt have much going on (everyone runs to LA). the setup was very simple and minimal we started off with like 10 people the first day in the park. a few months later, we hit 300. the increase was VERY slow at first. but suddenly more people started coming, and in the next few weeks, it exploded on itself. the last day was the most people we had, which was fine by me, because it was fun, but im not into babysitting and cleaning up after so many people week after week.. so it ended big and nice i guess. anyway -- point being, keep at it, and dont give up. have a variety of styles.. yadda yadda yadda.. enjoy! chris. __ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ [*<n/ff> <=rr*/a|>r] - wednesdays 7-8 pm riders of the plastic groove - fridays 9-midnight kuci 88.9fm po box 4362 irvine ca 92616 -:.:'-"-':_/'"'"\_|'\-"-':_/_|'\_|'\_/'"'_/'"'"\_.:'-".:'-"'"'_/'"'_//'"'"
1998-08-05 18:08Jon LoganI was a DJ in college until last year, and I spun mainly triphop and downtempo. Even tho m
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I was a DJ in college until last year, and I spun mainly triphop and downtempo. Even tho most of my school was into mainstream music, I had a lot of success getting parties going without honoring a single request. (although, this was mostly because I never had what anyone asked to hear ;) There is a huge host of intelligent (or, at least, not stupid) breaks that is listenable as well as danceable. I strongly recommend pretty much anything on the labels Wall of Sound and Pussyfoot. If I were to make a gross generalization, I would say that Wall of Sound leans more toward a hiphop sound, and Pussyfoot has a more headz-style electronic theme. The 'Wall of Pussy' collaboration comp by these two labels is excellent. Any of the Wall of Sound comps is worth getting, such as The First XI, The Second XI, Back to Mono, and Dig the Nu Breed. Also, the 'Best Foot Forward' comp on pussyfoot is good. Naked Funk's first full length, 'Valium', is a fabulous and unique sounding collection of funky electro. If you can find 'Executive Suite' by the Wiseguys, on Wall of Sound, I urge you to get it. It's a favorite of everyone who's heard it. Pork Recordings has some amazing material, but they tend to be more mellow and laidback. Fila Brazillia is a must, as well as Akotcha and some Bullitnuts. Aw, shucks, I love everything on Pork. Of course, there's Mo' Wax and Ninja Tune. They often are more abstract than most dancefloors can appreciate. Nonetheless, I strongly recommend Luke Vibert, Neotropic, Up Bustle n' Out, some Funki Porcini, some Amon Tobin, London Funk Allstars, etc. I've heard that the Headz 2a and 2b comps are worth getting. On the big beat front (yes, it's cheesy, but it's also loads of fun): Bolshi records is my favorite. The donuts #1 and #2 comps are good intros to the label. Laidback's 'International' is great fun and loaded with really solid tracks. I was really disappointed with the Athletico Speak comp on Athletico, so I don't recommend their stuff at all. Skint is another big playa in the big beat realm - they have Fat Boy Slim, the godfather of ridiculously huge big beat. Uhh... lessee, there's loads of others. Cup of Tea records has some good stuff, especially Mr. Scruff. they tend to venture into the realm of indy pop too often for my tastes, tho. I found Q-Burn's Abstract Message and Ronnie and Clyde to be accessible, but mediocre, breakbeat. Jeesus.... the Sons of Silence on Leaf are really great, and also innovative. Oh, and I can't forget to mention Depth Charge. Cripes, there is a HUGE amount of music out there that is both innovative and appealing to (a subset of) the masses. It takes a lot of warm up to get people into the abstract stuff, but it's possible. I've managed to successfully spin Plaid, Gescom, Hab, Boards of Canada, et al at parties where I had begun by spinning the above stuff. Of course, some abstract music is more appealing on the dancefloor than others, so choose carefully. :D At 1:12 PM -0400 8/5/98, cevallos@juno.com wrote:
quoted 34 lines It looks like my buddy and I are going to set up residency at a club here>It looks like my buddy and I are going to set up residency at a club here >up at school (Penn State). We are trying to cater to a college town >atmosphere w/o selling out and spinning disgusting Puffy. At the same >time, I have to recognize that dnb might not fly over too well at first. >We figure that my partner will house it with the 4/4 and I'll spin hip >hop (da real shit -- no commercial caca) and trip-hop type stuff. I do >not own any Icey, nor do I intend to buy any, but can somebody point me >in the direction of some of the better stuff out there that could >actually have cross-over appeal? Maybe I should even dabble into the >better side of big beat... > >Also, does anybody have any tips on how to bring a non-traditional crowd >into the more intelligent side of electronic music? We know that it >won't be overnight, and we'll probably have to still deal with the stupid >"play some spice girls" request, but we want to expose people to all this >music we constantly discuss on this list. > >Any and all leads are welcome... > > >Peace, > > > >Pedro Cevallos >-- >"Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans" > -- John Lennon -- >http://www.cat.net/~cevallos/ > >_____________________________________________________________________ >You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. >Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com >Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]
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1998-08-05 18:13laermOn Wed, 5 Aug 1998, Jon Logan wrote: > > > I was a DJ in college until last year, and I sp
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On Wed, 5 Aug 1998, Jon Logan wrote:
quoted 9 lines I was a DJ in college until last year, and I spun mainly triphop and> > > I was a DJ in college until last year, and I spun mainly triphop and > downtempo. Even tho most of my school was into mainstream music, I had a > lot of success getting parties going without honoring a single request. > (although, this was mostly because I never had what anyone asked to hear ;) > > There is a huge host of intelligent (or, at least, not stupid) breaks that > is listenable as well as danceable.
and there's always the old standby - lay down some kraftwerk ("tour de france", "numbers", "musique non stop") and get a few of your buddies (the ones who can) to breakdance. does wonders for loosening up parties and lets people know you're all about the odd stuff. * #### a disturbance in a system. #### laerm. @voicenet.com #### we decide what's wrong or right, we'd rather lose than fight/we're going down/without us you don't get no kicks, without us you do not exist/we are going down
1998-08-05 18:13SyntaxMusiccevallos@juno.com wrote: > > It looks like my buddy and I are going to set up residency at
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cevallos@juno.com wrote:
quoted 11 lines It looks like my buddy and I are going to set up residency at a club here> > It looks like my buddy and I are going to set up residency at a club here > up at school (Penn State). We are trying to cater to a college town > atmosphere w/o selling out and spinning disgusting Puffy. At the same > time, I have to recognize that dnb might not fly over too well at first. > We figure that my partner will house it with the 4/4 and I'll spin hip > hop (da real shit -- no commercial caca) and trip-hop type stuff. I do > not own any Icey, nor do I intend to buy any, but can somebody point me > in the direction of some of the better stuff out there that could > actually have cross-over appeal? Maybe I should even dabble into the > better side of big beat...
Check anything on the Fuel label (Dave Tipper, ILS, Bargecharge)-- wicked dark electro-meets-breaks-meets-dark-d&b. Also check the Skint Under 5's label which is the more experimental side of Skint (which spawned Fatboy Slim on an unsuspecting world)..Domestic-wise check the 360 label outta San Fran, excellent downbeat trip-hop from Darkhorse and Tim 'Love' Lee...
quoted 11 lines Also, does anybody have any tips on how to bring a non-traditional crowd> Also, does anybody have any tips on how to bring a non-traditional crowd > into the more intelligent side of electronic music? We know that it > won't be overnight, and we'll probably have to still deal with the stupid > "play some spice girls" request, but we want to expose people to all this > music we constantly discuss on this list. > > Any and all leads are welcome... > > Peace, > > Pedro Cevallos
Best of luck to you, me and my 2 partners have spent the better part of 2 years trying to maintain a free 'mixed-vibe'(techno,breaks,d&b,house,etc etc) night in NYC, and it's tough...But the people will come eventually...
1998-08-06 15:20SyntaxMusicKaisrSolze@aol.com wrote: > > >me and my 2 partners have spent the better part of > >2 yea
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KaisrSolze@aol.com wrote:
quoted 8 lines me and my 2 partners have spent the better part of> > >me and my 2 partners have spent the better part of > >2 years trying to maintain a free > >'mixed-vibe'(techno,breaks,d&b,house,etc etc) night in NYC, and it's > >tough...But the people will come eventually... > which club/bar night is this? > > Sam
It's a night called Oxygen. Formerly at Den Of Thieves (RIP-- now that Mayor Giuliani's got his hands around the collective throats of anyone who tries to enjoy themselves in NYC), then at Vain until about a month ago, when we decided to go on a little hiatus and figure out what we should do next. --gm