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1998-07-26 21:30(idm) Ae 'the grey album'
└─ 1998-07-26 22:38Mark Stevens Re: (idm) Ae 'the grey album'
└─ 1998-07-27 09:47Christian Stigen Larsen Re: (idm) Ae 'the grey album'
1998-07-27 17:50Mike Baugh Re: (idm) Ae 'the grey album'
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1998-07-26 21:30PLeXitMIND@aol.comI have been having my copy of this album for a couple of days now, and I have listened to
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I have been having my copy of this album for a couple of days now, and I have listened to it about a dozen times. It is another autechre album that I have fallen in love with, but at the same time, I am dissapointed in some ways. I just wish sometimes that they would get off the minimal tip for a couple of tracks and write some tracks in more of a poppy structure with more of an obvious hook. That would be the daring thing for Ae to do in my opinion. It is expected that most of their tracks will be in this minimal style of slowing changing over time. I just wish they would take a song in bunch of different directions. Also, while there is a degree of looseness and randomness on the album, I feel that it is not as random as cichli suite. All in all though, I do like the album very much and i would give it a 4 out of 5; i just think its missing a few things to call it complete genius. Can somebody point me to some reviews of this album, or send me one of theirs if anybody out there has typed one up? I am interested in hearing others opinions. THANKS
1998-07-26 22:38Mark StevensOn Sun, 26 Jul 1998 17:30:51 EDT, you wrote: >I have been having my copy of this album for
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On Sun, 26 Jul 1998 17:30:51 EDT, you wrote:
quoted 6 lines I have been having my copy of this album for a couple of days now, and I have>I have been having my copy of this album for a couple of days now, and I have >listened to it about a dozen times. It is another autechre album that I have >fallen in love with, but at the same time, I am dissapointed in some ways. I >just wish sometimes that they would get off the minimal tip for a couple of >tracks and write some tracks in more of a poppy structure with more of an >obvious hook. That would be the daring thing for Ae to do in my opinion.
I hear what you're saying, about a need for a return to melody, but then we've already got the likes of Boards of Canada, Bola, Andre Estermann and Fakesch/Funkstörung (amongst others) mixing crunchy beats and ambience with melody, so why should Autechre slip back into their old ways? Besides, the recent Gescom vinyl ("Viral" and "Viral Rival") has been very melodic. "Viral Rival" in particular is one of the best Booth/Brown tracks of all-time.
quoted 2 lines It is expected that most of their tracks will be in this minimal style of slowing>It is expected that most of their tracks will be in this minimal style of slowing >changing over time.
Stick on all five Autechre albums back-to-back and you notice a gradual change from melodic to chaotic. Perhaps "chaotic" isn't quite the right word, because the tracks are carefully structured. But we're currently hearing a multitude of cunning programming techniques -- ones that other people are slowly picking up on and emulating. The question we should be asking is not when Autechre are going to return to pure melody, but how far they can take their programming techniques -- and how long will it be before listeners get bored of this style of precision techno. We all loved drill & bass when Mike & Rich got the ball rolling, but it's starting to get a bit tiresome now.
quoted 3 lines Can somebody point me to some reviews of this album, or send me one of theirs>Can somebody point me to some reviews of this album, or send me one of theirs >if anybody out there has typed one up? I am interested in hearing others >opinions.
LP5 is a natural progression from Chiastic Slide. Whilst the programming trickery in LP5 is *very* impressive and a lot more intricate than CS, there's nothing particularly unexpected there. I'm not disappointed with LP5 at all -- it's my fave full-length slice of IDM this year -- but don't expect to hear anything radical. There is *something* missing from LP5, but I'm not sure what. Perhaps a bit more diversity -- previous Autechre albums, especially Amber & Tri Repetae, had a nice mixture of in-yer-face brain-rape and soul-stroking tranquility, but LP5's tracks all operate on pretty much the same level. Different techniques and sonic trickery, but the feel is constant all the way through. My favourite Autechre album of all-time is still Amber. Why? Because everything comes together perfectly. The purple/pink sand dunes on the cover, the silver void on the inside cover, the silver writing, the black CD, the titles of the tracks. All of those have created half the album's feel and mood already -- and that's before you've even pressed play! Then the tracks hit you and the shift of moods that unfold over the subsequent 74 minutes and 23 seconds is perfect. By the time you've hit 'Yulquen' (the most gorgeous Autechre track ever), you feel spiritually refreshed. No other Autechre album has managed to do that (although Tri Repetae comes close), which has been a personal disappointment for me. But then I do love Chiastic Slide and LP5. But I reckon there was a lot more mileage left in Amber's style -- no-one else really copied it either -- which is why I'm personally half-way through writing a bunch of tracks in a similar style. I intend to MP3 them all and stick them up for everyone to download free. Can't say when though. /\/)ark http://www.sonance.demon.co.uk/
1998-07-27 09:47Christian Stigen LarsenQuoting Mark Stevens (mark@sonance.demon.co.uk): | | My favourite Autechre album of all-ti
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Quoting Mark Stevens (mark@sonance.demon.co.uk): | | My favourite Autechre album of all-time is still Amber. Why? Because | everything comes together perfectly. The purple/pink sand dunes on the | cover, the silver void on the inside cover, the silver writing, the | black CD, the titles of the tracks. All of those have created half the | album's feel and mood already -- and that's before you've even pressed | play! Agreed, agreed, agreed! Amber is a personal gem in my Autechre collection. Talking about the cover, the cover and packaging of an album really plays an essential role in transmitting a refined overall feeling. One thing is that Autechre make great music, but part of their genius is also that of delivering a complete artistic _package_. I love the "postcards" they bundled in Tri Repetae, nice photos of the work of another genius (Cunningham). All their albums come in great packaging. Also, their vidoes (only two??) are great. The Anvil Vapre video is perfect in how the visuals are matched with the audio. (They shouldve made more videos). | No other Autechre album has managed to do that (although Tri Repetae | comes close), which has been a personal disappointment for me. All Autechre albums are very distinct. Of course, there is a very clear progression from the days of Incunabula to LP5, since the albums have been released pretty regularly, and you can trace how Sean and Rob change their sound. But still they've managed to make all the albums very distinct in their feel and sound, and in a way it's better to leave the albums as they are and keep on evolving -- that's why all the Autechre albums are special. Apropos their _sound_ changing, I feel there is a "missing gap" somewhere after Amber and Anvil Vapre; for me Anvil Vapre is kind of a starting point of the more "crunchy" Autechre (although I have little knowledge of tracks released between these two works) and the difference in sound from Amber and Anvil Vapre is greater than say Chiastic Slide and LP5. Viewpoints? Anyway, it's good to have my ears massaged by the crunchy sound. -- Christian Stigen Larsen -- http://www.sublevel3.org chrisl@stud.ntnu.no http://www.stud.ntnu.no/~chrisl/
1998-07-27 17:50Mike Baughheya, >Apropos their _sound_ changing, I feel there is a "missing gap" somewhere >after Am
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heya,
quoted 8 lines Apropos their _sound_ changing, I feel there is a "missing gap" somewhere>Apropos their _sound_ changing, I feel there is a "missing gap" somewhere >after Amber and Anvil Vapre; for me Anvil Vapre is kind of a starting >point of the more "crunchy" Autechre (although I have little knowledge >of tracks released between these two works) and the difference in sound >from Amber and Anvil Vapre is greater than say Chiastic Slide and LP5. >Viewpoints? > >Anyway, it's good to have my ears massaged by the crunchy sound.
I'm finding that LP5 seems a lot less crunchy than Chiastic Slide, to me it sounds like they're moving toward a more...electronic? sound, with less distortion and more nintendo bleeps...their song on WAP100 shows this aswell, however I have no idea how new that track actually is...anyone know what I'm talking about? cya------>mIkE |_ |_ |_ |_ |_ The People Under the Stairs Mike Baugh + Adrienne Pan Calgary Alberta Canada be afraid... www.canuck.com/~crave/people.html