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1998-07-21 13:27(idm) Autechre/WARPLP66
└─ 1998-07-21 13:19Irene McC Re: (idm) Autechre/WARPLP66
├─ 1998-07-21 13:38Adam Huffman Re: (idm) Autechre/WARPLP66
└─ 1998-07-21 21:39Ben Coffer Re: (idm) Autechre/WARPLP66
└─ 1998-07-22 21:35Chip Re: (idm) Autechre/WARPLP66
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1998-07-21 13:27Nuutti-Iivari "Merilinen" <gordon@vip.fi>In a world where commodification of information has become the norm and anonymity is scarc
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In a world where commodification of information has become the norm and anonymity is scarce, Autechre are not willing to participate. Gradually they have shifted from semirepresentational covers to just covers, with nothing but the information to keep track of the physical location of the music. The CD cover of their fifth album is matte black with a silent carving of the words "autechre" and "ae" on it, accompanied by a sticker with the required producer, label and copyright information. The inlay is a plain cardboard rectangle with track names. The CD is blank. The vinyl covers are of plain recycled marsana cardboard with a half-circle access cut for the records and the same sticker as on the CD. The word "autechre" is embossed almost unnoticeably on the sleeve. The records themselves are inside white cardboard inner sleeves with the other half being rectangular and the accessible end cut to match the half-circle of the vinyl. Track names are printed white on black on the label on each side. Unless one is well versed in the electronic music circuit, it is not possible to even start to guess what the music is like. The music is information, a constant flux of change in varispeed data. According to Gibson, Cyberspace is "A graphic representation of data abstracted from the banks of every computer in the human system. Unthinkable complexity." (William Gibson: Neuromancer, 1984) Autechre's fifth, unnamed album could as well be the aural equivalent to Gibson's Cyberspace. It is an audio space yet explored, an uncharted territory of the non-mathematics and non-logic of emotion. It is a rain of data structures in a machine-generated landscape. Like all uncharted territories, this one is not without its difficulties. It is emotionally very hard to access without prior experience with previous Autechre records. As with any analytical field of science, one must first study the basics before being engulfed by advanced theory. Such is the case with this album as well; to begin to appreciate it, it is almost required to start from the beginning, from "Incunabula" to "Amber" and "Tri Repetae", "Chiastic Slide" to the fifth Autechre album (not forgetting the intermediate single releases). Though the progression is not really required as one can just listen, it helps to hear Autechre's progress from the soothing ambience through unparalleled emotional response to mathematics and to the abstraction of data on the latest album. It is unjust to even to try to classify or label the record in any way. Though it is initially very hard to access, the rewards are great. This is a very involving record, definitely something that can not be played in the background (unless one has unparalleled skills of concentration). The last track has several minutes of silence between two songs. The last one goes yet unnamed. -- nuutti-iivari meril?inen -> gordon@diversion.org : diversion communications technostructuralist + information architect + media designer
1998-07-21 13:19Irene McCOn 21 Jul 98, Meriläinen "+ information architect +" wrote re: (idm) Autechre/WARPLP66: >
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On 21 Jul 98, Meriläinen "+ information architect +" wrote re: (idm) Autechre/WARPLP66:
quoted 1 line shifted from semirepresentational covers to just covers,> shifted from semirepresentational covers to just covers,
Check out the innovators: The Beatles White Album
quoted 1 line The CD cover of their fifth album is matte black> The CD cover of their fifth album is matte black
The wonderful BLACK Spinal Tap "Smell The Glove" ;-)
quoted 2 lines accompanied by a sticker with the> accompanied by a sticker with the > required producer, label and copyright information
Some Intinct releases just have a slip-over removable band with information, the rest of the packaging is totally clear - Jimpster's Martian Arts, Jammin' Unit's Deaf, Dub and Blind ...
quoted 2 lines Unless one is well versed in the electronic music circuit, it is> Unless one is well versed in the electronic music circuit, it is > not possible to even start to guess what the music is like.
Don't judge the book by its cover? Lots of covers don't proclaim the sound of the contained music. Could you tell from the Black Dog's 'Spanners' cover what the music sounds like? Or maybe SAW 2?
quoted 1 line The last track has several minutes of silence between two songs.> The last track has several minutes of silence between two songs.
The very obnoxious and vexing "hidden track" trick. Been done before. Notably Brian Eno/Jah Wobble "Spinner" - there is a 5 minute gap between the last listed track and then another 8+1/2 min track follows unexpectedly after five mins of total silence. And so? I * np: the hidden nameless track off Spinner
1998-07-21 13:38Adam HuffmanThe important thing is the music, non? It is very good music. adam p.s. don't forget the B
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The important thing is the music, non? It is very good music. adam p.s. don't forget the Boards Peel session tonight, kids. No football to distract the national mind.
1998-07-21 21:39Ben CofferIn message <E0yycJJ-00013g-00@smtp02.iafrica.com>, Irene McC <substar@iafrica.com> writes
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In message <E0yycJJ-00013g-00@smtp02.iafrica.com>, Irene McC <substar@iafrica.com> writes
quoted 4 lines Don't judge the book by its cover? Lots of covers don't proclaim>Don't judge the book by its cover? Lots of covers don't proclaim >the sound of the contained music. Could you tell from the Black >Dog's 'Spanners' cover what the music sounds like? Or maybe >SAW 2?
Well....spanners, looks kinda egyptianish, and Psil-Cosiyn sounds kinda egyptianish ;)
quoted 4 lines The very obnoxious and vexing "hidden track" trick. Been done>The very obnoxious and vexing "hidden track" trick. Been done >before. Notably Brian Eno/Jah Wobble "Spinner" - there is a 5 >minute gap between the last listed track and then another 8+1/2 >min track follows unexpectedly after five mins of total silence.
Er.....hello? What's going on? why's no-one mentioned this before? I have the vinyl version and now i hear i'm missing an xtra autechre track....grrrr. -- Ben Coffer http://www.hybridgame.demon.co.uk/
1998-07-22 21:35Chipi'd hardly call it a hidden track. more like "hidden fucking-around-for-a-minute-and-a-hal
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i'd hardly call it a hidden track. more like "hidden fucking-around-for-a-minute-and-a-half" really a waste of time, if you ask me. my only complaint about the album. the third track is, to quote vanilla ice, "mind blowin'". sorry. had to. alan! np:big noise-a mambo inn compilation On Tue, 21 Jul 1998, Ben Coffer wrote:
quoted 23 lines In message <E0yycJJ-00013g-00@smtp02.iafrica.com>, Irene McC> In message <E0yycJJ-00013g-00@smtp02.iafrica.com>, Irene McC > <substar@iafrica.com> writes > >Don't judge the book by its cover? Lots of covers don't proclaim > >the sound of the contained music. Could you tell from the Black > >Dog's 'Spanners' cover what the music sounds like? Or maybe > >SAW 2? > > Well....spanners, looks kinda egyptianish, and Psil-Cosiyn sounds kinda > egyptianish ;) > > >The very obnoxious and vexing "hidden track" trick. Been done > >before. Notably Brian Eno/Jah Wobble "Spinner" - there is a 5 > >minute gap between the last listed track and then another 8+1/2 > >min track follows unexpectedly after five mins of total silence. > > Er.....hello? What's going on? why's no-one mentioned this before? > I have the vinyl version and now i hear i'm missing an xtra autechre > track....grrrr. > > -- > Ben Coffer > http://www.hybridgame.demon.co.uk/ >
1998-07-23 00:08johnnyben you're really not missing too much. the vinyl packaging sounds more interesting. johnn
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ben you're really not missing too much. the vinyl packaging sounds more interesting. johnny
quoted 13 lines The very obnoxious and vexing "hidden track" trick. Been done> > >The very obnoxious and vexing "hidden track" trick. Been done > >before. Notably Brian Eno/Jah Wobble "Spinner" - there is a 5 > >minute gap between the last listed track and then another 8+1/2 > >min track follows unexpectedly after five mins of total silence. > > Er.....hello? What's going on? why's no-one mentioned this before? > I have the vinyl version and now i hear i'm missing an xtra autechre > track....grrrr. > > -- > Ben Coffer > http://www.hybridgame.demon.co.uk/
1998-07-23 12:18tokyo jim>From: Chip <arlst18+@pitt.edu> >i'd hardly call it a hidden track. more like >"hidden fuc
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quoted 4 lines From: Chip <arlst18+@pitt.edu>>From: Chip <arlst18+@pitt.edu> >i'd hardly call it a hidden track. more like >"hidden fucking-around-for-a-minute-and-a-half" >really a waste of time, if you ask me.
it's not a waste of time when you get really caned or are half asleep when the last track finishes and like your're dozing off then all of a sudden from nowhere you get strange buzzing noises. it really freaked me the first time which i'm sure was entirely the idea. PS with regard to skipping stones over lakes.... ask a stupid question you get a stupid answer. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com