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Greg Clow wrote:

quoted 4 lines (snip) a lot of people on the list have commented on the

> (snip) a lot of people on the list have commented on the > IDMish qualities of "Genie in a Bottle" by Christina Agulera (or however > the hell you spell it), but I gotta say that I just don't hear it. It's a > good pop song, but that's about it.

Greg: I was getting my haircut the other day, and the hair place's radio was switched for its usual top 40 pop station (chum's c100 here in halifax, i know you have an equivalent in TO) to some opera. My hairdresser and I are not opera fans (me: straight white guy, she: straight black woman), and she and I have great rapport (we're friends outside the hairdressing place, so it's not like i'm just a client who walks in once a month) and, as per usual, got loud and obnoxious. she, being very vocal about how opera in a hairdressing shop didn't work, that even bad pop music would be better, me agreeing and getting into my usual rant about how brittney spears, backstreet boys, and others are literally produced (and written for) by the same people, so the songs are all so interchangeable. we did agreee that that "genie in a bottle" song, while trying to sound like timbaland, at least *didn't* sound exactly like brittney, backstreet and other "white trash" pop (my phrase) that is dominating the charts. it's interesting, to me at least, that brittney and backstreet, white floridians, are working with white swedish producers, plus with shania twain's husband john "mutt" lange, whereas n sync (white floridians) are working with some black producers like shekespeare (who did tlc's "no scrubs" and others; n sync's "bye bye bye" is freestyle straight outta 1989, at least that's floridian in a way! :)) and aguilierra has more of "the funk" sound with her timbaland style production (which i'd rather hear on the radio than the cookie cutter brittney/backstreet/robyn/shania sound). i checked the credits on chrisitina a's cd at the store and didn't recognize the names of her producers. madonna, other than her shep pettibone stuff, was best on her bedtime stories album (with babyface? girlfriend has the cd around here somewhere), but now she's got that irritating "electronica" of william orbit's twiddling. like, didn't anyone notice that that song on austin powers and the american pie cover have the same damn twiddling? anyway, rodney jherkins (sp?) (who did brandy's best stuff and jennifer lopez's "iff...." most notable for it's four on the floor kick as opposed to the der rigeur sound) is producing spice girls and michael jackson's new stuff. nope, won't make me buy it, but, when i hear it over and over and over on the radio (at work), i'd rather hear jherkin's produced funk than that swedish scholck that max martin and the late denniz pop (or is it the other way around?) were and are churning out. again, it's a scary thought that def leppard's pour some sugar on me and shania twain's any man of mine are essentially the same song (both written/produced by mutt lange) and, for inspiration, def leppard listened to *brittney* (no joke, read this in an interview with them in a metal mag that a coworker reads at work: brave words and bloody knuckles) for inspiration when def were recording ]the new album; which was produced a bit by lange; lange is working with brittney on her new album! it's like this incestous six degrees of separation stuff. scary too that shania twain is the best selling female and country (is that *realy* country?) artist of all time now with 26 million copies of "come on over" sold now (122 weeks on billboard; shit am i ever full of useless information!). the album just got released in a "pop mixes" version, but, er, wasn't it already pop in the first place? enoguh rant on sclock, er, "pop" music. btw, nope, i don't sit around and listen to pop music or radio (other than talk radio) at home, just am inundated with it at work and elsewhere. my mind is like this sponge that seems to soak up useless info. andrew duke :) np stargard's "wear it out" (1979; warner bros); provided the "i've been savin' my lovin'" and synth hook for pete heller's "big love" filter track of last year. starguard was a female trio who wrote for themselves and did a fine job of it; also worked with norman whitfield. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org