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2000-03-19 02:21__..-- lander --..__ (idm) future of "idm" and of the "idm" list
2000-03-19 03:57Christophe McKeon (idm) Asmus Tietchens?
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2000-03-19 02:21__..-- lander --..__[The statements and opinions expressed here do not necessarily represent those of lander,
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[The statements and opinions expressed here do not necessarily represent those of lander, opinions change daily with thought processes.] [Please take into account, before continuing further, that I am in no way an advocator for what is to come of ?IDM.? Who knows where it will go? We, as a community, are the only ones who can change the present face, and the current path, of ?IDM.?] Your fellow ?IDM? List member: lander The future of ?IDM? and of the ?IDM? List I think that what the ?IDM? List needs is a greater sense of community. I always thought the ?IDM? community to be very close knit. An area of the artistic/musical spectrum that the mainstream artistic/musical franchise could never touch, an area of the artistic/musical world that could transcend the typical dilemmas of the mainstream market. I always thought that the ?IDM? community was a community where the music was made for the people who enjoyed it, by the people who enjoyed it, for the sole purpose of enjoying it and learning from it, gaining something much more emotional than mainstream market could ever offer. Why not exploit the offerings of the Internet in order to create a greater community effort as far as ?IDM? and its expenditures are concerned? Why not create an ?online? community that heeds to the needs of everyone within the ?IDM? community, because obviously, presently, it is somewhat of a small community? Why not construct a masterpiece? Create a web site that acts as a database for all the information relating to ?IDM?? People want to post ads for CD?s they are selling. Then why not put up a guestbook style CGI scripted database of classified ads for would be ?IDM? music buyers, all from within the ?IDM? community? Create a forum for discussion between ?IDM? list members. Create a news page for the latest ?IDM? News. Exploit the Internet for all it has to offer, however do not create a virtual community bent on nothing but online resources, and a machine of robot web crawling ?IDMers.? Create projects for ?IDM? list members. Compilation albums, [more] remix projects, etc. Develop a record label from the ?IDM? list utilizing all of the talent, hidden or already apparent, on the list. Also, fully exploit other talents on the list, not just musical, but artistic, and all other creative skills and talents. Literature, art, music, programming, architecture, mathematics; use all of the talents the list has to offer. Kill the corporate graphics machine. Kill large record labels destroying the smaller less financially fortunate ones. This, however, could exist only among a fully willing and volunteering group of list members, or ?community? members, people who were willing to sacrifice some of their time and services. Right now, looking at how the list is progressing, or regressing, this seems perhaps impossible. If, however, any one on the list would like to develop any such project or projects further, then by all means contact me, for I would be willing to devote some of my services to such a project or projects. We (list members) must remember that the future of the ?IDM? List is only as bright as we make it, and not only just its future, but the future of ?IDM? itself. Furthermore, I always thought that ?IDM? was a more personal type of music than the more mainstream markets. Because of its somewhat small population of followers, compared to other ?types? of music, this is evident. There?s definitely something more personal about getting a hand-made, numbered copy of the latest album you have bought than a mass-produced one. I also thought that the ?IDM? community was not a community with the ultimate goal of making profit, but with the goal of putting out ?good? music, and defying definition compared to the more mainstream markets for music. Someone on the list said that they felt that the list?s topics for music weren?t specific enough, while others felt that the generalities of the ?IDM? ?genre? were their sole purpose for joining the list in the first place. I agree with the latter, the greatness of the ?IDM? ?genre? is that it really isn?t a ?genre? per say, and the music found within said ?genre? is so diverse. This is why I am so drawn to ?IDM.? It is a ?genre? which transcends the need for definition, and has no boundaries. Albeit the name (?IDM?) may not be particularly fitting for such a ?all-encompassing? ?genre,? (my mother asked me if ?IDM? was an oxymoron) and is perhaps a little deceiving at first glance, but what ?IDM? has to offer outweigh its seemingly ?unintelligent? name. Similarly, as far as being personal, I find it hard to believe that the ?IDM? community would let such corporate machines as the likes of W*** and The Designers R******* take over much of its creative influence. I mean, you can only put a bunch of arrows going in every which way on an album covers so long before it gets too trite. And how many people does it take to design a cover that?s just one color? To top it off W*** is killing the smaller labels struggling to lay their name in the ?IDM? community. This however, is a smaller problem than the future of ?IDM? music itself. What I find puzzling about the statements made by list members, wanting a more defined type of music to discuss, is that I, perhaps naively, thought that ?IDM? was so diverse that it needed no definition. I mean, has ?IDM? come so far that when you hear the constant ?tick, tick, tick? of a high hat, coupled with strategically structured DSP effects, that the music says, ?You are listening to ?IDM??? Or is it that the music screams Autechre influence? Neither. This creates a fear in me that perhaps ?IDM? is becoming a more defined music to some. And with that may appear cliches that plague many other ?types? of more defined music. Like the build up snare rush finale of house, for example. Are we (list members) scared of new direction for ?IDM?? Is ?IDM? a ?genre? that is doomed not to grow and develop? Are ?IDM? artists and bands just one trick ponies? I doubt it. Perhaps this all stems from the want for ultimate facts and ultimate definitions to cling to. Only there are no truths, and there are no solid facts. Like David in David and Lisa, telling the doctor about his grand scheme to create radio controlled watches so that everyone knew exactly what time it was all the time. The doctor calmly replies that not everyone wants to know the exact time. And my friend told me that a solid fact is that the sun is always 93+ million miles from the earth, and everyone can agree on that, he's very wrong. The earth is in an eliptical orbit, thus the sun is never any given amount of distance away, it's always changeing, not to mention the universe is changing around it. Well perhaps we don?t really need a fine definition for ?IDM? either? Or maybe I'm really, really wrong here. Or maybe it's all gfine and good the way it is. Who knows? I don't know. Either way, enjoy yourself, no matter what you're doing. lander p.s.: did anyone catch the www.method.com webcast of lexaunculpt? i missed all but the last two songs, got there half way through metroid, and it sounded realy good. so if anyone got it and wouldn't mind sending it to me e-mail me about it, please. thanks a bunch. lander ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2000-03-19 03:57Christophe McKeonHi all, Just wondering if any body knows any thing about an outfit by the name of 'Asmus T
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Hi all, Just wondering if any body knows any thing about an outfit by the name of 'Asmus Tietchens'? I don't even know if that's spelled right cause I just have a CDR with a blurred label on it. Great stuff though. Thanks much in advance, Christophe --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2000-03-19 15:51oralAt 22:57 -0500 18.03.00, Christophe McKeon wrote: >Hi all, >Just wondering if any body kno
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At 22:57 -0500 18.03.00, Christophe McKeon wrote:
quoted 7 lines Hi all,>Hi all, >Just wondering if any body knows any thing about an outfit by the name of >'Asmus Tietchens'? I don't even know if that's spelled right cause I just have >a CDR with a blurred label on it. Great stuff though. >Thanks much in advance, >Christophe >
is your CDr recent ?, last purchase I made from him is from Staalplat with no date on it Asmus Tiechens released a lot of experimental Lps and Cds in the 80's. His discography is quite impressive. His work is difficult to compare: he touched to a variety of intensities, explored different fields of electronics. I shouldn't say it's ecclectic but he made a lot of researchs who brought him in solo ou with contributors to different directions. From minimal works in a Moebius Roedelius vein to atmospheric "heavy" soudtracks to pure experimentations. Labels:Sky Records, hamster Records, Multimood Records, Staalplat Eric Mattson, Program Advisor Email: oral@oral.qc.ca MUTEK: Music, Sound and New Technologies June 7 to 11, 2000, Montreal ++++++++++++ ORAL, labOral............ ............ Oral: http://www.oral.qc.ca ............ ............ At BIly Kün, 354 Mont_Royal est, Montréal, Québec Dr P(r)axil: Tuesdays and thursdays, 10 PM to 2AM DJ Christian Miron: Fridays, 10 PM to 2AM ............ ............ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2000-03-19 04:13LOWONICE13@aol.comhttp://www.hyperreal.org/intersection/zines/est/intervs/tietchen.html In a message dated 3
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http://www.hyperreal.org/intersection/zines/est/intervs/tietchen.html In a message dated 3/18/00 10:05:20 PM Central Standard Time, c.mckeon@rcn.com writes:
quoted 8 lines Hi all,> Hi all, > Just wondering if any body knows any thing about an outfit by the name of > 'Asmus Tietchens'? I don't even know if that's spelled right cause I just > have > a CDR with a blurred label on it. Great stuff though. > Thanks much in advance, > Christophe >
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