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1998-05-21 23:28Steven Center Re: (idm) Chocolate Industries 03
├─ 1998-05-22 04:05Hrvatski Re: (idm) Chocolate Industries 03
└─ 1998-05-22 05:149-5SuperSpy Re: (idm) Chocolate Industries 03
└─ 1998-05-22 05:31Lance C. McGannon Re: (idm) Chocolate Industries 03
1998-05-21 23:49-wheeler- (idm) Chocolate Industries 03
└─ 1998-05-22 00:54Greg Clow Re: (idm) Chocolate Industries 03
1998-05-22 00:41cl Re: (idm) Chocolate Industries 03
1998-05-22 05:28audio//brian Re: (idm) Chocolate Industries 03
1998-05-22 08:49Brian Gingold Re: (idm) Chocolate Industries 03
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1998-05-21 23:28Steven CenterAt 11:49 PM 5/21/98 +0000, you wrote: >I've just got hold of the Push Button Objects 12" a
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At 11:49 PM 5/21/98 +0000, you wrote:
quoted 3 lines I've just got hold of the Push Button Objects 12" and it's the>I've just got hold of the Push Button Objects 12" and it's the >thinnest vinyl I own, I think. And there's a lot of surface noise. >Have I got a duff one or are they all cheap pressings?
my copies of both 02 and 03 on Chocolate Industries are on very flimsy vinyl, so my guess is that you do not have a duff one. my p.b.o. 12" has all kinds of scratchy-staticy noise at the beginning of side 1, amongst other scattered shoddy surface noises. my funkstorung 12" is not as bad, but not too much better. i can't figure out why they would press their music on such cheap vinyl, as there is no shortage of places to get quality vinyl pressed here in the u.s.. i sure would have been disappointed with a test pressing as thin as these things...they are practically flexi-discs. also, i sure hope the chocolate folks are not paying more for thin plastic sleeves as opposed to plain cardboard ones, as they provide little protection for the vinyl and very little added benefit (unless you count the asthetics, but that would really only come in to play if their releases were pressed on colored vinyl, imho, and they are not.)
quoted 4 lines Just out of>Just out of >interest, is there a relationship between vinyl thickness and surface >noise? (now look what I've started) At the price I paid I'm a bit >disappointed (in the pressing, not the music BTW).
there is definitely got to be some sort of correlation between the vinyl thickness and sound quality, but i for one would have a hard time showing it. for one thing, the p.b.o. 12" has some VERY deep bass action going on. steve. saforite spellcheck suggestion from this message: funkstorung : fungitoxic
1998-05-22 04:05Hrvatski> i sure would have been disappointed with a test pressing as thin as these >things... fun
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quoted 2 lines i sure would have been disappointed with a test pressing as thin as these> i sure would have been disappointed with a test pressing as thin as these >things...
funny, I have promos of these on super-heavy black vinyl...
quoted 5 lines also, i sure hope the chocolate folks are not paying more for thin plastic>also, i sure hope the chocolate folks are not paying more for thin plastic >sleeves as opposed to plain cardboard ones, as they provide little >protection for the vinyl and very little added benefit (unless you count the >asthetics, but that would really only come in to play if their releases were >pressed on colored vinyl, imho, and they are not.)
I've seen copies of these records in various colors. I'm assuming yours are black. There are also white, grey, and various shades of in between. Some of the swirly ones came out really well, definitely worth bringing to the consumer's attention by displaying them as such...
quoted 4 lines Just out of>>Just out of >>interest, is there a relationship between vinyl thickness and surface >>noise? (now look what I've started) At the price I paid I'm a bit >>disappointed (in the pressing, not the music BTW).
There's a relationship, no matter how subtle, between thickness and surface noise, pressing volume and frequency response. With colored vinyl most plants will ask for two sets of stampers, assuring for a better quality record at the end of the run (less chance of bad records pressed from caked stampers by having two sets...). There's also the point of purity. There's dye in colored vinyl, so there's less girth to a colored record than a pure clear record (apparently all black vinyl is dyed such, for what reason...). -Hrvatski. ___________________________________ Reckankreuzungs Klankewerkzeuge & Company PO Box 382864 Cambridge, MA 02238 - 2864 is online @ http://www.tiac.net/users/sheket
1998-05-22 05:149-5SuperSpyMy copy of p.b.o. is on grey marble vinyl, whereas the other two copies I've seen are on b
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My copy of p.b.o. is on grey marble vinyl, whereas the other two copies I've seen are on black vinyl. Anyone else have a grey 1or know what's up? -Daniel 9-5SuperSpy@kuci.org ============================================================================== Listen to "Space Disco for Fish Tacos", KUCI 88.9fm Wednesdays 8-10pm New Space Disco For Fish Tacos web site: http://www.kuci.org/~dbremmer ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ "We're not talking about music. Fuck music, this is Taco Mesa... Music is just something we do until we get hungry and can go back to Taco Mesa" -Alex Graham ==============================================================================
1998-05-22 05:31Lance C. McGannonAt 10:14 PM 5/21/98 -0700, you wrote: > >My copy of p.b.o. is on grey marble vinyl, wherea
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At 10:14 PM 5/21/98 -0700, you wrote:
quoted 4 lines My copy of p.b.o. is on grey marble vinyl, whereas the other two copies> >My copy of p.b.o. is on grey marble vinyl, whereas the other two copies >I've seen are on black vinyl. Anyone else have a grey 1or know what's up? >
i have several copies of the PBO 12" that seem to range in color from a light grey marble to a dark charcoal grey. it would appear that as the pressing went on the grey vinyl got darker. maybe at the pressing plant they were running out of grey vinyl and had to add some black to finish the run. regardless, it's a good record. -->-Lance--- p.o. box 450715 westlake, ohio 44145 united states
1998-05-21 23:49-wheeler-I've just got hold of the Push Button Objects 12" and it's the thinnest vinyl I own, I thi
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I've just got hold of the Push Button Objects 12" and it's the thinnest vinyl I own, I think. And there's a lot of surface noise. Have I got a duff one or are they all cheap pressings? Just out of interest, is there a relationship between vinyl thickness and surface noise? (now look what I've started) At the price I paid I'm a bit disappointed (in the pressing, not the music BTW). Oh, and the music is good. I listened to this on headphones - very monophonic isn't it? Tracks 3 & 4 - very good indeed.
1998-05-22 00:54Greg ClowOn Thu, 21 May 1998, -wheeler- wrote: > I've just got hold of the Push Button Objects 12"
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On Thu, 21 May 1998, -wheeler- wrote:
quoted 3 lines I've just got hold of the Push Button Objects 12" and it's the> I've just got hold of the Push Button Objects 12" and it's the > thinnest vinyl I own, I think. And there's a lot of surface noise. > Have I got a duff one or are they all cheap pressings?
Sounds similar to my copy, so I'd bet the whole batch is like that. The Funkstorung isn't much better. Also, while the clear plastic sleeves give the records a nice look, they're not very practical. A couple of trips in my record bag and the sleeves are already splitting at the edges. Bleh. Still, the choons are sweet, so I guess I shouldn't complain too much. Greg
1998-05-22 00:41clSteven Center wrote: > At 11:49 PM 5/21/98 +0000, you wrote: > >I've just got hold of the
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Steven Center wrote:
quoted 18 lines At 11:49 PM 5/21/98 +0000, you wrote:> At 11:49 PM 5/21/98 +0000, you wrote: > >I've just got hold of the Push Button Objects 12" and it's the > >thinnest vinyl I own, I think. And there's a lot of surface noise. > >Have I got a duff one or are they all cheap pressings? > > my copies of both 02 and 03 on Chocolate Industries are on very flimsy > vinyl, so my guess is that you do not have a duff one. my p.b.o. 12" has > all kinds of scratchy-staticy noise at the beginning of side 1, amongst > other scattered shoddy surface noises. my funkstorung 12" is not as bad, > but not too much better. i can't figure out why they would press their > music on such cheap vinyl, as there is no shortage of places to get quality > vinyl pressed here in the u.s.. i sure would have been disappointed with a > test pressing as thin as these things...they are practically flexi-discs. > also, i sure hope the chocolate folks are not paying more for thin plastic > sleeves as opposed to plain cardboard ones, as they provide little > protection for the vinyl and very little added benefit (unless you count the > asthetics, but that would really only come in to play if their releases were > pressed on colored vinyl, imho, and they are not.)
well i have 2 copies of the pbo. 1 is on thin black vinyl, the other is on marbled grey thin vinyl. (same songs) not too noisy, but i agree that they probably wont hold up for long. cl
1998-05-22 05:28audio//brian>My copy of p.b.o. is on grey marble vinyl, whereas the other two copies >I've seen are on
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quoted 2 lines My copy of p.b.o. is on grey marble vinyl, whereas the other two copies>My copy of p.b.o. is on grey marble vinyl, whereas the other two copies >I've seen are on black vinyl. Anyone else have a grey 1or know what's up?
my copy of pbo is on the grey marble vinyl too. the quality of the vinyl is abosolute shit. in fact, i think i might have accidentally cracked it just putting it in my bag once. oh well, the music is amazing. question: was pbo around when that warp radiomix cd came out? i'm kind of wondering if autechre didn't just slap this out as a remix even though it's one of their original tracks...hhmm....someone prove me wrong please. -- brian rachielles -- http://www.rain.org/~audio -- audio//kcsb91.9fmsantabarbara
1998-05-22 08:49Brian GingoldAt 11:05 PM 5/21/98 -0500, Hrvatski wrote: >There's also the point of purity. There's >dye
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At 11:05 PM 5/21/98 -0500, Hrvatski wrote:
quoted 4 lines There's also the point of purity. There's>There's also the point of purity. There's >dye in colored vinyl, so there's less girth to a colored record than a pure >clear record (apparently all black vinyl is dyed such, for what reason...). >-Hrvatski.
It's easier to see the tracks on dark vinyl. _____________________________________________________________________________ brian gingold:::university of california davis sound:::kdvs 90.3 fm:::tues @ midnight:::experimental/intelligent electronics http://wwwcsif.cs.ucdavis.edu/~gingold