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1998-04-24 17:55Mr. Tangent (idm) Infiltration
└─ 1998-04-28 12:38Jeff Davis <pHlow> Re: (idm) Infiltration
1998-04-24 23:36Simon Paul Re: (idm) Infiltration
1998-04-25 18:27Clay Pig Re: (idm) Infiltration
└─ 1998-04-27 15:31Christopher Michael Bradbury Re: (idm) Infiltration
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1998-04-24 17:55Mr. TangentI'm curious as to how most of you IDM'ers got into this scene. I arrived here as such: Dep
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I'm curious as to how most of you IDM'ers got into this scene. I arrived here as such: Depeche Mode, Pet Shop Boys, Art of Noise, Information Society, etc. (early-late 80's) -TO- Nine Inch Nails, Front 242, Skinny Puppy, Ministry, Nitzer Ebb, Front Line Assembly, etc. (1989) -TO- Leæther Strip, Lassigue Bendthaus, Numb, SPK, Einstürzende Neubauten, Klinik, Cabaret Voltaire (went on a retro kick), etc. (early 90's) -TO- haujobb, Lustmord, Aphex Twin, Autechre, Speedy J, Future Sounds of London, µ-Ziq, Black Lung, Panacea, Photek, Panasonic, Mouse on Mars, etc. (mid-90's to present) Of course, this is omitting a great deal of music as I have over 700 cds, not to mention tapes and vinyl. I started with synth-pop and went on to electro-industrial, this eventually led me to have a huge interest in the progenitors of industrial (Throbbing Gristle, Coil and so forth). I also kept listening, with great interest, to post-industrial/electro-industrial. In 1994 I heard Aphex Twin for the first time ("At The Heart Of It All" - off NIN's "Further Down the Spiral") and became enthralled with this exciting genre called techno-ambient (or as its now called - IDM). I generally do not like hard beat, four on the floor techno, but prefer "Public Energy #1"-Speedy J type techno-ambient. The first album that really turned me onto IDM was "I Care Because You Do" by Aphex Twin. That album still to this day is one of my top 10 favorite albums (regardless of genre). Although I believe most of the more exciting music is made in the IDM-dark ambient-experimental (Brighter Death Now, Illusion of Safety!) genres I still like quite a few electro-industrial and original industrial artists. Anyway, let me know how you got here.... Oh, and I'm 25. I suppose this is a median age for IDM'ers? -- Mr. Tangent "insert random quoted text here, for your reading pleasure"
1998-04-28 12:38Jeff Davis <pHlow>On Fri, 24 Apr 1998 17:55:26, "Mr. Tangent" <tangent@getonthe.net> said: >I'm curious as t
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On Fri, 24 Apr 1998 17:55:26, "Mr. Tangent" <tangent@getonthe.net> said:
quoted 3 lines I'm curious as to how most of you IDM'ers got into this scene. I arrived>I'm curious as to how most of you IDM'ers got into this scene. I arrived >here as such: >
ok, i'll bite before 'infiltration' ge's added to kill files globally, right above 'weep' just milestones, as i'm sure there's no real thread of continuity or evolution. i'm lost, how the hell should i know how i got here? late sixties: jonesin' on my uncle's VU, MC5, blue cheer and hendrix records, mostly trippin on the album covers, but also watchin him dose curled up on the futon wishin i was old enough to "really appreciate" the music.... 1969: first record purchased with my own money (my 2nd grade report card haul) steppenwolf 2. 1969 - 1973: every steppenwolf record known to man seventies: all the stuff that a budding spicole could scam out of columbia house , rca etc (floyd, zep, nugent, KISS, new york dolls, etc.) freaked when i also bought radioactivity, and man machine on a whim. 77-80: punk / new wave phase: devo, costello, clash, patti smith, wall of voodoo, MX80 sound, residents, joy division 80-86: (college) new order, anything by 4AD, U2, polyrock, gang of four, sad lovers&giants, sonic youth, eno, heads, echo & the bunnymen also beginning digging the first synth pop wave: soft cell, heaven17, human league, depeche etc. 86-89 (real world): house of love, jesus&mary chain, swans, shoegaze (ride, slowdive) 1989: first party(chicago): realized house wasn't just boomboomboomboom but still rockin' primarily to spacemen3, stone roses, verve, mondays etc. 91: bought UR: final frontier and fell headlong into 313 worship 93: SAW85-92, the rest is fairly predictable 98: funkstorung, chain reaction, mannequin lung and mp3's of MC5 and VU sorry for the crawl down memory lane..... Jeff Davis <pHlow> ____--~~~~~~vvvv~~~~ oooo518.475.5042 jjdavis@xnet.com____---- ( ( ( vvvv ~~~~~~ooooooooooooo ___----( ( \ \ \ \ \ vvv ooooooooooooooooooo ____---- ( \ \ \ \ \ \ \ http://www.xnet.com/~jjdavis/
1998-04-24 23:36Simon Paulwow. you're my long lost twin.... ;-) Mr. Tangent wrote: > I'm curious as to how most of y
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wow. you're my long lost twin.... ;-) Mr. Tangent wrote:
quoted 2 lines I'm curious as to how most of you IDM'ers got into this scene. I arrived> I'm curious as to how most of you IDM'ers got into this scene. I arrived > here as such:
ABBA to metal flirtation(grade 6!) then hip-hop, to:
quoted 4 lines Depeche Mode, Pet Shop Boys, Art of Noise, Information Society, etc.> > > Depeche Mode, Pet Shop Boys, Art of Noise, Information Society, etc. > (early-late 80's)
AON, Depeche mode,New Order, Cab Voltaire etc....pretty much the same,
quoted 6 lines -TO-> > > -TO- > > Nine Inch Nails, Front 242, Skinny Puppy, Ministry, Nitzer Ebb, Front Line > Assembly, etc. (1989)
PWEI,Puppy, then the rest you mention....oh and some early techno L.A. style..I remember buying Pretty Hate Machine in the budget bin when it first came out!
quoted 6 lines -TO-> > > -TO- > > Leæther Strip, Lassigue Bendthaus, Numb, SPK, Einstürzende Neubauten, > Klinik, Cabaret Voltaire (went on a retro kick), etc. (early 90's)
yup looks the same 'cept I never got into EN/SPK/klinik I was more into MBM/Die Warzau the funkier stuff......
quoted 7 lines -TO-> > > -TO- > > haujobb, Lustmord, Aphex Twin, Autechre, Speedy J, Future Sounds of London, > µ-Ziq, Black Lung, Panacea, Photek, Panasonic, Mouse on Mars, etc. > (mid-90's to present)
yup except I got into Illbient stuff majorly and Dub / Jungle and left the *industrial* stuff behind(unless it's the old guys like RHK/Key/Marcus&Christie etc.) I try to like the new industrial stuff but it doesn't jive with me any more...mostly I can't stand the vocals/lyrics. I'm 26 with about the same amount of CD's etc,. I generally like cluttered/groovy/dark/layered moody stuff perferably with no vocals for the most part, loadsa bass and percussion..but I have my quiet genleter Ae/FSOL times ;-) spaul
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1998-04-25 18:27Clay Pig----"Mr. Tangent" <tangent@getonthe.net> wrote ---- >>>I'm curious as to how most of you I
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----"Mr. Tangent" <tangent@getonthe.net> wrote ----
quoted 1 line I'm curious as to how most of you IDM'ers got into this scene. I arrived>>>I'm curious as to how most of you IDM'ers got into this scene. I arrived
here as such: In 1994 I heard Aphex Twin for the first time ("At The Heart Of It All" - off NIN's "Further Down the Spiral") and became enthralled with this exciting genre called techno-ambient (or as its now called - IDM).<<< I'd have to say that this one track written because rdj 'thought it was what a band called nine inch nails should sound like' is what pulled me into the realm of IDM which i so dearly love. I was into all of the nin, ministry, EN, f242, etc until i heard more tracks like this. I know someone asked before, but I wonder what percentage of people on this list 'arrived here' after hearing this track by afx. The track certainly goes on my 'songs that make you weep' as well as "vletrmx21", u-ziq - "tango n' vectif"+"iesope", sqpshr - "anirog d9", boc - "everything you ..", and I am probably the only person willing to add nin - "something i can never have" [come on, it made me cry when I was 13 ;)] imho I think this thread is compiling a list of beautiful tracks that do what I love most about this genre -> invoking emotion w/o words .. or of course just making my feet move. I doubt we all cry that much :) btw, I'm only 16 (is that the youngest age for an idm-list member or are there any younger teenies lurking out there? <g>) On another topic - Could someone comment on the David Kristian/Sian CD on Alien8. I havn't heard any reviews except for the one written by alien8. Thanks. np: jake slazenger - makes a racket -- ~~Steve Collins~~ "Sometimes, dreams are wiser than waking." -Black Elk http://www.nfdc.net/home/claypig
1998-04-27 15:31Christopher Michael Bradbury> On another topic - Could someone comment on the David Kristian/Sian CD > on Alien8. I ha
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quoted 3 lines On another topic - Could someone comment on the David Kristian/Sian CD> On another topic - Could someone comment on the David Kristian/Sian CD > on Alien8. I havn't heard any reviews except for the one written by > alien8. Thanks.
no beats :) very droney, very good.. i'd give you a better review, but i havnt given it a fair listen yet.. worked well to sleep to, and sounded good on the radio though.. --chris.