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for those of you still interested, i had a look at the documentary i taped some time ago and i can confirm that it is _sonic arts_. the documentary consists of interviews with and soundclips of Stockhausen, Pierre Henry, DJ Spooky, Squarepusher (wonderful bit from a live show, TJ freaking out over his little mixer !), Merzbow, ... all the interviews have dutch subtitles (only dutch), but some bits are in german, dutch, french and even japanese, which might be a problem for most language-challenged people. apparently, i also taped the "sister"-documentary, called _sonic images_. this one consists of music of Stockhausen, Squarepusher, Merzbow, ... accompagnied by images shot by a variety of dutch artists (all of them unknown to me). some of the images remind me of the Coldcut / Hex stuff, the images almost showing the sound and music you hear, all really nice stuff. both documentaries will fit nicely on a 120 minute video tape and i am willing to make a dub for anyone interested (sorry but i can only do PAL dubs !). if interested, drop me a line and i am sure we can work something out. i myself am still looking for a variety of video (mostly Cabaret Voltaire related) and music things ... dv8

Got a rather unusual cd in the station today. It's by a band called Cubanate and it's on Wax Trax/TVT. I threw it into the cd player and got a surprise. I think it is the first attempt at meshing industrial with drum n bass. Now, I know your thinking well what about Digital Hardcore? Well it doesn't sound like DHR cause there aren't any hardcore speed metal riffs or heavily distorted beats. Instead the vocals are distorted (much like Ministry/Skinny Puppy), but placed over rather straighforward drum n bass tracks. The result is pretty interesting and anyone that likes the two genres should definetly check it out. The album is produced by Rhys Fulber of Front Line Assembly/Delirium fame. So far track number 2, "Isolation," seems to be a standout track. I don't think that this album is indicative of what the next Nine Inch Nails record will sound like however. The album doesn't use elements of jungle, but rather uses it as the foundation for every track. ario P.S. Somebody post a review on the new Boards of Canada or the Caustic Window! _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

On Tue, 21 Apr 1998, NoZe Brotherhood wrote:

quoted 9 lines Got a rather unusual cd in the station today. It's by a band called

> Got a rather unusual cd in the station today. It's by a band called > Cubanate and it's on Wax Trax/TVT. I threw it into the cd player and got > a surprise. I think it is the first attempt at meshing industrial with > drum n bass. Now, I know your thinking well what about Digital Hardcore? > Well it doesn't sound like DHR cause there aren't any hardcore speed > metal riffs or heavily distorted beats. Instead the vocals are distorted > (much like Ministry/Skinny Puppy), but placed over rather straighforward > drum n bass tracks. The result is pretty interesting and anyone that > likes the two genres should definetly check it out.

as a big industrial dance/ebm fan, i will have to give my feelings on this cd: marc heal (mr cubanate) should not be allowed within 30 feet of a jungle beat. he destroyed the last cyber-tec album, imho. that said, here's some more on industrial meets d'n'b (& more): haujobb. haujobb. haujobb. these two germans are incredible. their second album, _freeze frame reality_ from '96, showed them taking a more techno/acid-y/experimental tack than their previous album (straightforward skinny puppy-esque industrial). lots of squeslchy analogs and bleeps and very harsh. but really good. their third, _solutions for a small planet_ ('97), is an absolute masterpiece. very experimental. some extremely distinct idm-ish elements: some tracks have clicks and whirrs a la autechre, some have fax-y ambience, all of them are awesome. now, i've always hated standard industrial lyrics and that way-overused ogre distortion effect on the voice, but the haujobb is all very clean, dry vox, often very understated and calm, and with a cerebral kinda futuristic technological vision. very good. the accompanying remix album, _matrix_, i voted for as best idm album of '97. it was the only completely original thing of the year, imho. all of the remixes are quite radical deconstructions, most very d'n'b-esque in an extremely experimental sense. no drill'n'bass or spunk jazz or fungle, but really clean crisp irregular patterns. hard to describe. there's an interesting kinda industrial house remix, a seefeel-y drone-y new track, a soaring detroit-y mix, and some minimalist fun. another worth checking out are x marks the pedwalk's last two albums. '96 brought us _meshwork_, full of lots of mingling 303 lines (reminiscent of the better hardfloor stuff) and vocoders galore. good, but '97's _drawback_ blew it away. this is industrial on the electro edge (except faster) with some minor d'n'b patterns for entertainment. one or two border trip-hop on the darkside, one pushes the house-y/techno-y/eurodance gig (and is a guaranteed floor-filler), and one borders on enigma-esque girl-y pap (program it out). some very interesting new vocoder ideas on this one, too. the guy behind xmtp has a real good sense of space and arrangement. and he kinda sounds like neil tennant sometimes. both haujobb and xmtp are extremely well-produced, and you can find 'em all on metropolis, based in the fine city of philadelphia; abroad it's offbeat for haujobb and zoth omnog for xmtp. * #### a disturbance in a system. #### laerm. @voicenet.com #### one time and you're a philosopher; two times and you're a pervert.

On Tue, 21 Apr 1998, Random Junk wrote:

quoted 3 lines yeah! "solutions for a small planet" and "matrix" are really

> yeah! "solutions for a small planet" and "matrix" are really > fantastic albums. these guys are certainly pushing the envelope and > doing their own thing.

definitely. when we had the "sounds great and they used no equipment" thread, i was gonna post on haujobb, but figured that nobody else had heard of 'em. :) apparently, the entirety of solutions was recorded with (their official list): 1 roland juno60 1 akai s900 1 tascam da88 cubase on powermac 2 ashtrays not bad. :)

quoted 6 lines also worth checking out is NEWT (a collaboration between haujobb and

> also worth checking out is NEWT (a collaboration between haujobb and > forma tadre). the album is called -273C and it is easily one of my > favorite discs of the last few months. an extremely cold, sterile > electronic landscape with chittering rhythms and alien synths. sorta > electroish in places, clean and clinical... really a fantastic effort > on all levels. see www.quantumloop.com for sound samples.

oh, yes, most definitely. i sent a review of this to the list somewhere back when it came out (last august?). also, the forma tadre mix of haujobb's net culture (on the cleaned visions cd5) is incredible. the forma tadre album is alright, a little spotty in places on the vocal stuff, but the new one should be incredible. also, haujobb have started a new label for their stuff (the name of which currently escapes me) because off beat didn't like their lack of obvious dancefloor tracks, so haujobb left. one half of haujobb has the first release on their new label under the name of cleen. just out, the ep, _designed memories_, is like solutions on 'roids with a heavy shot of squelch. *very* good. the other half of haujobb has done 2 12"s for the label, for release soon, under the name dots and dashes. apparently this is more minimal techno-ish stuff like solutions, but in a different direction than cleen. * #### a disturbance in a system. #### laerm. @voicenet.com #### one time and you're a philosopher; two times and you're a pervert.

In message <19980421.003526.3694.1.NoZe_Brotherhood@juno.com>, NoZe Brotherhood <noze_brotherhood@juno.com> writes

quoted 2 lines Got a rather unusual cd in the station today. It's by a band called

>Got a rather unusual cd in the station today. It's by a band called >Cubanate and it's on Wax Trax/TVT. I threw it into the cd player and got

Yes, Cubanate....i hadn't heard of them before until i saw them as a support band for the Front 242 gig last October. I thought they were darn good actually, their beats were as fast as Squarepusher and the really messed up vocals sounded quite cool on top...had me grinning anyway... -- Ben Coffer http://www.hybridgame.demon.co.uk/