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Ninja Jeff (not to be confused with Mark Messier, on tour with the Ninjas):

quoted 1 line Over the course of the next 45 minutes a half-full (at that time) club

>> Over the course of the next 45 minutes a half-full (at that time) club

heard

quoted 11 lines Ms. Neotropic cover a vast musical landscape. None of which had ever been

>> Ms. Neotropic cover a vast musical landscape. None of which had ever been >> released! (Found out later she played material from her upcoming album, >> which due to the glacial-like pace of Ninja Tune won't be out 'til >> September.) > > Having just worked another 12 hour day, I am moved to respond (but no > offence really taken)... > > 'glacial like pace'. Having this year alone already released 7 singles, 3 > full lengths, and a video, I would hardly think we move slow. These > things need to be scheduled properly.

Sorry, no offense meant. Remember that I was in Riz Maslen Fanboy Rant Mode at the time :-) I want to have her bab... erm, new music! And I want it now dagnabit! And not being privy to the inner machinations of labels, to my untrained mind "5 months" == "glacial-like pace". Sorry.

quoted 4 lines To be fair to the artist we need to properly pace our release schedule so

> To be fair to the artist we need to properly pace our release schedule so > that similar styles of records don't come out at the same time (ie. if we put > out Riz's record in the same month we released Irresistible Force it doesn't > do either of them any good as they're then competing for press and sales).

Now *this* I just don't get. To me they're two different entities, regardless of whether they happen to release albums that have similarities, imagined or real. The press bit I can understand a little more ... jimg/skoop wrote about SF:

quoted 1 line We got to the Justice League at about 11pm

> We got to the Justice League at about 11pm

Joe put this on? Props ...

quoted 4 lines But, I was less than won-over by the rest of [Riz's] live show. First off,

> But, I was less than won-over by the rest of [Riz's] live show. First off, > and this is just my personal taste, and I'm sure I'm gonna get flamed for it, > I'm not keen on a 'live' artist spinning records and then just playing a > few samples overtop ... which is what it seemed like she was doing.

Emphasis "seemed". Far be it for me to deny you your opinion of Neotropic, but if that's what you think she was doing, you weren't paying close enough attention. The keyboard was used to trigger samples from an Akai S3200 and at other times was played straight through. From what I saw she only slapped on a record (or three) a few times during the set, presumably for added ambience or flava. If you're grading her based on the "mixing skillz" perspective, that's not what she's about at all.

quoted 2 lines the last piece she played was very chill, and it kinda killed the vibe in

> the last piece she played was very chill, and it kinda killed the vibe in > the hot, sweaty, overcrowded club.

This might have been timing-related, down here she played 2nd and the club was 2/3rds empty when she started ... so no packed sweaty masses to vibekill. (Then again, the people down here - and it was 2/3rds full by the time she finished - seemed to dig it.) Tsog5000 wrote:

quoted 3 lines and the sound... depending on where you stood, the sound was destructive (in a

> and the sound... depending on where you stood, the sound was destructive (in a > bad way). I was hangin' on the front right hand side, and the sound was great. > but when I moved to the back where the bar was, I thought I was bleeding.

Most everyone I talked to thought it was 'way too loud. Of course, for most of the time I was in the very back by the bar. (-: (Which is why you didn't spot us, Dan Bremmer) That's why I hate the Troubadour as a venue, because it's clear that somebody who's some battle-scarred rock veteran with shot hearing is doing the sound in the damn place ... (i.e. too loud, too mid-rangey, too shrill, trademark deaf stuff) Lord have mercy on whomever goes to see Curve there this weekend (wauggh! I'll be in Florida :-( ), as they're the Gods of High Volume ... (speaking of Curve, Andregurov/James, Freaky Chakra is opening for them in L.A., not Witchman.) (Wandering off-topic) James wrote:

quoted 9 lines P.S. There was one skiier (sp?) from the last Winter Olympics who

>> P.S. There was one skiier (sp?) from the last Winter Olympics who >> was asked about his favorite music, and he listed like 5 Meat Beat >> Manifesto albums, so go figure. > > I think I remember this guy. He was either a skier or a snowboarder. In one > magazine ad or article, they asked three different competitors their > favorite albums, and while two listed folks like Garth Brooks and 70's > rockers, this one dude named early MBM and some other IDM type bands. > Amusing.

C'mon, tell me, this has *got* to be the Norwegian dude with the flaming bright red colored hair, right? He looked pretty cool ... mr. selfish cameron wrote:

quoted 2 lines however, spike should earn his biggest props for using skate_boarding_

> however, spike should earn his biggest props for using skate_boarding_ > legend mark gonzales in his nissan ad [...]

You Know You're Old When dept.: When you have no clue who a skate "legend" is because he's at least 10 years younger than the names you associate with the term "skate legend" (Tony Alva/Alva Skates anyone? Jim Muir/Dogtown Skates? Stacey Peralta? Anyone? Anyone? Bueller? Sherman, set the Wayback for '78) np: The better half's soundtrack to an upcoming Digital Domain animated short - Road-rash elbowed Greg

quoted 13 lines mr. selfish cameron wrote:

> mr. selfish cameron wrote: > > however, spike should earn his biggest props for using > skate_boarding_ > > legend mark gonzales in his nissan ad [...] > > You Know You're Old When dept.: When you have no clue who a skate > "legend" is > because he's at least 10 years younger than the names you associate > with the > term "skate legend" (Tony Alva/Alva Skates anyone? Jim Muir/Dogtown > Skates? > Stacey Peralta? Anyone? Anyone? Bueller? Sherman, set the Wayback > for '78)

I was just thinking youd have to be pretty old to remember Mark Gonzales from the highlight of his career!!... heheh... those other names are just legends are they not? Steve (23)

quoted 10 lines mr. selfish cameron wrote:

>> mr. selfish cameron wrote: >> > however, spike should earn his biggest props for using >> skate_boarding_ >> > legend mark gonzales in his nissan ad [...] >> >> You Know You're Old When dept.: When you have no clue who a skate >> "legend" is >> because he's at least 10 years younger than the names you associate >> with the >> term "skate legend" (Tony Alva/Alva Skates anyone?

ahhh, my first skate...

quoted 4 lines Jim Muir/Dogtown

>>Jim Muir/Dogtown >> Skates? >> Stacey Peralta? Anyone? Anyone? Bueller? Sherman, set the Wayback >> for '78)

anyone remember the movie skate madness???

quoted 1 line I was just thinking youd have to be pretty old to remember Mark Gonzales

>I was just thinking youd have to be pretty old to remember Mark Gonzales

yeah, the gonz rocks... isn't he a graphic designer now??? hmmmm, idm content, ummmmm... anyone have air liquides Black cd??? good? later q -------------- hold onto your chairs...Gravity taking a hiatus, sad but true... somethings in the works though... http://www.hqcommunications.com/gravity.htm -------------- syntext@lightspeed.bc.ca http://www.hqcommunications.com/syntext.html

quoted 1 line I was just thinking youd have to be pretty old to remember Mark Gonzales

>I was just thinking youd have to be pretty old to remember Mark Gonzales

Greg will be 40 years old in October. He is probably the oldest IDMer :-) Am I right ? Who is the youngest IDMer ? Just courious.... bye rob (21) np: 3acid : qwerty (16)

quoted 1 line and the sound... depending on where you stood, the sound was destructive

> > and the sound... depending on where you stood, the sound was destructive

(in

quoted 11 lines a

> > a > > bad way). I was hangin' on the front right hand side, and the sound was > > great. > > but when I moved to the back where the bar was, I thought I was bleeding. > > Most everyone I talked to thought it was 'way too loud. Of course, for most > of the time I was in the very back by the bar. (-: (Which is why you didn't > spot us, Dan Bremmer) That's why I hate the Troubadour as a venue, because > it's clear that somebody who's some battle-scarred rock veteran with shot > hearing is doing the sound in the damn place ... (i.e. too loud, too > mid-rangey, too shrill, trademark deaf stuff)

I know this has been brought up awhile back by Jon Drukman, but PLEASE people bring some earplugs to these events! It's hardly a problem to put a couple earplugs in your pocket before the show and they cost only a few bucks. When I felt the sound getting too loud at the Ninjas show I put the plugs in, simple as that. Granted, the highs get cut a lot, but it's so much better than feeling like you have cotton in your ears for the next couple days and then have high pitched tones invade your ears periodically for the *rest of your life* from Tinnitus. Just do yourself a favor. E r i c F r a n s epf@internetconnect.net [cellular] http://www.internetconnect.net/~kdkates/epf [so-cal idm event page] http://www.internetconnect.net/~kdkates/epf/scidm.html

At 11:54 AM 4/7/98 -0700, you wrote:

quoted 2 lines I know this has been brought up awhile back by Jon Drukman, but PLEASE

>I know this has been brought up awhile back by Jon Drukman, but PLEASE >people bring some earplugs to these events! It's hardly a problem to >put

a couple earplugs in your pocket before the show and they cost

quoted 3 lines only a few bucks. When I felt the sound getting too loud at the

>only a few bucks. When I felt the sound getting too loud at the >Ninjas show I put the plugs in, simple as that. Granted, the highs >get cut a lot, but it's so much better than feeling like you have >cotton

in your ears for the next couple days and then have high >pitched tones invade your ears periodically for the *rest of your

quoted 1 line life* from Tinnitus. Just do yourself a favor.

>life* from Tinnitus. Just do yourself a favor.

i wholehearedly second that, having been initiated into the ranks of the tinnitus afflicted 5 months ago, i can only say that in some respects it has made my life a living hell. (imagine having a extremely minimal sahko track on in your head ALL THE TIME. belive me, the novelty wears off *real* fast...)if you love music and more importantly if you write tracks yourself, you'll need to have your ears in good shape for a long long time... i'm only 21 and it really pisses me off that for the rest of my life i'll have to plan around this shit. and man, do i feel like kicking my own ass now for not being careful enough... (ironically, i was aware of tinnitus and thought i *was* being careful enough... well, i guess i was wrong. sigh) anyway, i would highly recommened checking out the tinnitus FAQ on how to protect yourself: http://www.cccd.edu/faq/tinnitus.html (if this site dosen't work there are a bunch of other sites that have it) and now for something completely different: how does saber's of paradise sabersonic2 compare to sabersonic1? i sold my copy of saber1 soon after it was deleted and been wanting it back ever since... so is saber2 equally good (i know it has some tracks on it from saber1) or is it just a bad sequel...? thanks in advance. :spacecake:

robert.merlak@ri.tel.hr wrote:

quoted 11 lines I was just thinking youd have to be pretty old to remember Mark

> >I was just thinking youd have to be pretty old to remember Mark > Gonzales > > Greg will be 40 years old in October. He is probably the oldest IDMer > :-) > Am I right ? Who is the youngest IDMer ? Just courious.... > > bye > rob (21) > > np: 3acid : qwerty (16)

I know someone who is older than Greg on the list, but I won't give her away ( your *secret* is safe!). And I'll be 42 in September anyway. jeff -- dancing/about/architecture "...with wandering steps and slow..." ICQ 904008