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1998-04-06 19:27Greg Earle (idm) Ninjas invade Los Angeles. Film at 11.
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1998-04-06 19:44Eric Frans RE: (idm) Ninjas invade Los Angeles. Film at 11.
1998-04-06 23:38ninjah Re: (idm) Ninjas invade Los Angeles. Film at 11.
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1998-04-06 19:27Greg Earle[Hmmn, I coulda sworn we had IDM subscribers in Vancouver, Victoria, Seattle, Portland and
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[Hmmn, I coulda sworn we had IDM subscribers in Vancouver, Victoria, Seattle, Portland and San Francisco. Don't you ever go out?] The Ninja posse hit Los Angeles last night. I haven't seen any reviews, so here's a rundown ... Called the phone number and it said "Doors open at 8, first DJ at 9". With no running order in hand, but wanting to get there on time, left home at 8:25 and 2 pitstops later we're running late and don't get to the there's-no-parking Troubadour until 9:05. Get inside at like 9:15 to find DJ Anna had gone on at 8 and was already finished! What was worse, the Main Event - Riz Maslen - was already up on stage!! ARGGGGGH! <insert various we-can't-print-these- in-family-newspapers phrases directed towards buttwipe venue recorded messages> Over the course of the next 45 minutes a half-full (at that time) club heard Ms. Neotropic cover a vast musical landscape. None of which had ever been released! (Found out later she played material from her upcoming album, which due to the glacial-like pace of Ninja Tune won't be out 'til September.) It was notably different from "15 Levels of Magnification" in most every way. There was Industrial Hip-Hop (probably the closest I'll ever get to hearing something that sounds like Techno-Animal live), there were vocals (both her own and the girl singer from Sky Cries Mary, whom she's remixed), there were ethereal moments, there were soundtrack-y moments, there were Industrial moments, there were soft piano moments, and there were phat beats moments. Lots of phat beats moments :-) In short, it was utterly fucking brilliant. Riz embodies everything that's good about a true Artist - she doesn't look back, she's into the here and now, and is not afraid to plow her own path - and it's the epitome of "IDM" - at (most) times danceable music that's obviously the product of a very intelligent mind. (She should have draped a "Caution: Brain At Work" sign over the turntables at the front of the stage.) After Neotropic came a rather forgettable set from one of the Herbalizer crew. No attempt to mix and I just wasn't in the mood for it after Riz's set. Next up was T-Power and his chum doing their Chocolate Weasel thing. This started out as a Young Person's Guide to Electro ("Planet Rock", "Tour de France", "Clear") but then they veered away from that to what became a mix of somewhat cheezy stuff mixed with some tuff Drum n' Bass (Brock 'spotted some Grooverider, we heard other stuff that must have come from "Spaghettification" which I haven't heard but you could kinda tell from the context). I quite liked the stuff I heard that sounded like it was T-Power-generated, and of course how could you not love those old Electro chestnuts heard loud? (Boy, I think I'm gonna camp out for Kraftwerk tickets. I can taste it already.) Next up was DJ Vadim, who was later joined by someone else on the decks in a 2x4. While I like Hip-Hop and scratching in small dosages, I guess I'm more into it from the turntablist perspective, i.e. to me the music is less relevant than the display of turntable talents (cf. Kid Koala, Q-Bert et al.) and since Vadim is none of the aforementioned, after some pleasant head-nodding for a bit we went outside ... There we found Riz doing t-shirt booth duty (!) so we chatted her up for an hour or so on various and sundry topics. I found out there's two older Neotropic 12"'s I've never even seen, as well as a Small Fish With Spine full-length that's apparently not too easy to locate either. She suggested I contact Andy Shih at Oxygen Music Works in NY. (I remember him being on IDM once back in the day; anybody got a recent e-mail addy for him?) For those of you in San Diego tonight, Phoenix tomorrow (Gil, I'm talkin' to you boyuh - and bring that MD with you y'hear?) and points East, this is a Don't Miss event. Your brain will be churnin' and yo' ass will be shakin'. But get there *early* or else you'll miss out on one of the best-kept secrets in IDM - Neotropic. Ignore her at your peril. - Greg
1998-04-06 21:269-5SuperSpyOn Mon, 6 Apr 1998, Greg Earle wrote: > Over the course of the next 45 minutes a half-full
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On Mon, 6 Apr 1998, Greg Earle wrote:
quoted 14 lines Over the course of the next 45 minutes a half-full (at that time) club heard> Over the course of the next 45 minutes a half-full (at that time) club heard > Ms. Neotropic cover a vast musical landscape. None of which had ever been > released! (Found out later she played material from her upcoming album, > which due to the glacial-like pace of Ninja Tune won't be out 'til September.) > > It was notably different from "15 Levels of Magnification" in most every way. > There was Industrial Hip-Hop (probably the closest I'll ever get to hearing > something that sounds like Techno-Animal live), there were vocals (both her > own and the girl singer from Sky Cries Mary, whom she's remixed), there were > ethereal moments, there were soundtrack-y moments, there were Industrial > moments, there were soft piano moments, and there were phat beats moments. > Lots of phat beats moments :-) > > In short, it was utterly fucking brilliant.
Riz was amazing. Without repeating your sediments, let me just say that she was the highlight of the evening, and along with Animals on Wheels she's the best thing ninja tune has to offer. She even dropped spiritualized's "pure phase" and something off the new low album "songs of a dead pilot". I've never seen an electronic musician like that drop indie rock before. I was able to talk to her upstairs, and she was really cool and receptive to people just coming up to talk to her. I'll be picking up those ntone 12"'s and that small fish with spine album as soon as I can locate them. btw- I don't see how I missed you there greg, where you upstairs or something? -Daniel 9-5SuperSpy@kuci.org ============================================================================== Listen to "Space Disco for Fish Tacos", KUCI 88.9fm Wednesdays 8-10pm New Space Disco For Fish Tacos web site: http://www.kuci.org/~dbremmer ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ "If you want to call it a bandwagon, we've jumped upon it," -VH1 executive Jeff Gaspin. (CNN) ==============================================================================
1998-04-06 19:44Eric FransGreg Earle wrote: > Get inside at like 9:15 to find DJ Anna had gone on > at 8 and was alr
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Greg Earle wrote:
quoted 2 lines Get inside at like 9:15 to find DJ Anna had gone on> Get inside at like 9:15 to find DJ Anna had gone on > at 8 and was already finished!
She put on a good set. None of the turntable trickery of DJ Vadim, but nice seamless beats for an hour. Admittedly, I don't own loads of trip hop, but I did recognize Shadow's "Organ Donor" and a track off Coldcut's newest album. She was about the music and not about showboating, which I respected.
quoted 4 lines Over the course of the next 45 minutes a half-full (at that time) club heard> Over the course of the next 45 minutes a half-full (at that time) club heard > Ms. Neotropic cover a vast musical landscape. None of which had ever been > released! (Found out later she played material from her upcoming album, > which due to the glacial-like pace of Ninja Tune won't be out 'til
September.)
quoted 8 lines It was notably different from "15 Levels of Magnification" in most every way.> > It was notably different from "15 Levels of Magnification" in most every way. > There was Industrial Hip-Hop (probably the closest I'll ever get to hearing > something that sounds like Techno-Animal live), there were vocals (both her > own and the girl singer from Sky Cries Mary, whom she's remixed), there were > ethereal moments, there were soundtrack-y moments, there were Industrial > moments, there were soft piano moments, and there were phat beats moments. > Lots of phat beats moments :-)
Her set definitely had a soundtrack feel to it. I'd describe it as FSOL vs. Techno Animal vs. Eno. Very impressive stuff. I can't wait to pick up her upcoming album! Defnitely a departure from her _15 Levels of Magnification_ (still a good album, just completely different).
quoted 2 lines After Neotropic came a rather forgettable set from one of the Herbalizer> After Neotropic came a rather forgettable set from one of the Herbalizer > crew. No attempt to mix and I just wasn't in the mood for it after Riz's
set. Anyone know which member of Herbalizer was DJing? He looked like Frank Black (back when he was a bit slimmer :). The 1st half of his set was nice, but then he started getting too far into the funk/rare groove thing... err something. He had this smirk on his face, like he was trying to see how far he could take the crowd before they stopped dancing and thought "geez, this is horrible."
quoted 10 lines Next up was T-Power and his chum doing their Chocolate Weasel thing. This> Next up was T-Power and his chum doing their Chocolate Weasel thing. This > started out as a Young Person's Guide to Electro ("Planet Rock", "Tour de > France", "Clear") but then they veered away from that to what became a mix of > somewhat cheezy stuff mixed with some tuff Drum n' Bass (Brock 'spotted some > Grooverider, we heard other stuff that must have come from > "Spaghettification" > which I haven't heard but you could kinda tell from the context). I quite > liked the stuff I heard that sounded like it was T-Power-generated, and of > course how could you not love those old Electro chestnuts heard loud? (Boy, > I think I'm gonna camp out for Kraftwerk tickets. I can taste it already.)
Yeah, the electro sounded very nice out loud. I must give props to Troubadour for having their shit together with the sound. The bass was so crisp it made my rib cage rattle and jugulars twitch (and that's a good thing). I was slightly disappointed, though, because I was under the impression that Chocolate Weasel would be playing live and not spinning -- oh well.
quoted 6 lines Next up was DJ Vadim, who was later joined by someone else on the decks in a> Next up was DJ Vadim, who was later joined by someone else on the decks in a > 2x4. While I like Hip-Hop and scratching in small dosages, I guess I'm more > into it from the turntablist perspective, i.e. to me the music is less > relevant than the display of turntable talents (cf. Kid Koala, Q-Bert et al.) > and since Vadim is none of the aforementioned, after some pleasant > head-nodding for a bit we went outside ...
So who was this other person who joined DJ Vadim? I can't compare their skills to Koala, Short Cut, Q-Bert, etc. since I've never experienced them, but Vadim and pal knew how to scratch better than any DJ I've witnessed. Plus their selections were good and it was a bonus to her Marley Marl's "The Symphony" booming!
quoted 2 lines But get there *early* or else you'll miss out on one of the best-kept secrets> But get there *early* or else you'll miss out on one of the best-kept secrets > in IDM - Neotropic. Ignore her at your peril.
I'll second that. E r i c F r a n s epf@internetconnect.net [cellular] http://www.internetconnect.net/~kdkates/epf [so-cal idm event page] http://www.internetconnect.net/~kdkates/epf/scidm.html
1998-04-06 23:38ninjah>Over the course of the next 45 minutes a half-full (at that time) club heard >Ms. Neotrop
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quoted 5 lines Over the course of the next 45 minutes a half-full (at that time) club heard>Over the course of the next 45 minutes a half-full (at that time) club heard >Ms. Neotropic cover a vast musical landscape. None of which had ever been >released! (Found out later she played material from her upcoming album, >which due to the glacial-like pace of Ninja Tune won't be out 'til >September.)
Having just worked another 12 hour day, I am moved to respond (but no offence really taken)... 'glacial like pace'. Having this year alone already released 7 singles, 3 full lengths, and a video, I would hardly think we move slow. These things need to be scheduled properly. To be fair to the artist we need to properly pace our release schedule so that similar styles of records don't come out at the same time (ie. if we put out Riz's record in the same month we released Irresistible Force it doesn't do either of them any good as they're then competing for press and sales). 'Glacial Like'! Tell that to my ulcer. Anyway, having heard a good deal of the material from the Neotropic record, it's sounding wicked. I believe we are releasing a single over the summer but no date has been set yet. There is a new track which will appear on 'Ninja Cuts 3-Funkungfusion' (released April 27th). Glad you liked the show. We've been getting lots of good reports coming in from all the cities. Take Care Ninja Jeff
1998-04-07 03:16Tsog5000ya know, I just wasn't very impressed... I saw da ninja's a year ago with Tobin, Porcini,
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ya know, I just wasn't very impressed... I saw da ninja's a year ago with Tobin, Porcini, Herbalizer, etc... and that knocked my socks off. but, asides from neotropic and maybe vadim, I wanted more. Herbalizer was spinning great tunes, though mixing was close to horrible (the cover of Light My Fire was humorous) Chocolate Weasel: I don't know what the hell was going on there... the begining was groovy, but then it just didn't seem to click... I didn't get to hear much of anna, though hearing the "extended overhaul" of DJ Shadow's Organ Donor on big ass speakers did put a smile on my face. and the sound... depending on where you stood, the sound was destructive (in a bad way). I was hangin' on the front right hand side, and the sound was great. but when I moved to the back where the bar was, I thought I was bleeding. t.S.o.G. e.x.p. issue 5: on it's way...