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1998-04-01 16:39Rowland Atkinson (idm) 2nu4u
1998-04-01 17:01spacecake Re: (idm) 2nu4u
1998-04-01 17:41Martin Burbridge Re: (idm) 2nu4u
└─ 1998-04-02 23:00spacecake Re: (idm) 2nu4u
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1998-04-01 16:39Rowland AtkinsonMax Tundra - Children at Play (Warp) One of the most listenable tracks from Warp and the w
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Max Tundra - Children at Play (Warp) One of the most listenable tracks from Warp and the world of IDM for some time, two tracks of roughly twelve minutes each, gorgeous and moving while retaining some drill and bass elements. Fast and sharp but lovingly crafted, wonder if his next stuff will be as good. Thought this was a new lease of life for Paradinas but its Ben Jacobs and you must get it NOW! Cylob - Are we not men who live and die (Rephlex) Managed to grab a copy and I love it, first track is pretty much the title treated and repeated but it gets me, very emotive feel to it. Second track is good quality Cylob fare - fairly sparse helpings at 3mins each though. Got mine from Rough Trade, not sure if there are any left... . . . ..runaround...NOW! rA:
1998-04-01 17:01spacecakeAt 04:39 PM 4/1/98, you wrote: >Max Tundra - Children at Play (Warp) >One of the most list
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At 04:39 PM 4/1/98, you wrote:
quoted 6 lines Max Tundra - Children at Play (Warp)>Max Tundra - Children at Play (Warp) >One of the most listenable tracks from Warp and the world of IDM for some >time, two tracks of roughly twelve minutes each, gorgeous and moving while >retaining some drill and bass elements. Fast and sharp but lovingly >crafted, wonder if his next stuff will be as good. Thought this was a new >lease of life for Paradinas but its Ben Jacobs and you must get it NOW!
eh, i would advise people to approach this release with caution... a standard squarepusher ripoff, imo- (the tracks sound like out-takes from hard normal daddy) plus they're way too long and meandering which makes me quickly loose my intrest... maybe if the guy was a little more original and didn't try so hard to sound like mr.jenkinson i would pay more attention... the ep is ok though... i would recommended for people who are new to the fucked up squarepusheresque vein of dnb... nothing new for veterans though... peace. :spacecake:OnNow:My PJs and slippers.
1998-04-01 17:41Martin Burbridgespacecake wrote: > > At 04:39 PM 4/1/98, you wrote: > >Max Tundra - Children at Play (Warp
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Wed, 01 Apr 1998 12:41:15 -0500
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spacecake wrote:
quoted 18 lines At 04:39 PM 4/1/98, you wrote:> > At 04:39 PM 4/1/98, you wrote: > >Max Tundra - Children at Play (Warp) > >One of the most listenable tracks from Warp and the world of IDM for some > >time, two tracks of roughly twelve minutes each, gorgeous and moving while > >retaining some drill and bass elements. Fast and sharp but lovingly > >crafted, wonder if his next stuff will be as good. Thought this was a new > >lease of life for Paradinas but its Ben Jacobs and you must get it NOW! > > eh, i would advise people to approach this release with caution... > a standard squarepusher ripoff, imo- (the tracks sound like > out-takes from hard normal daddy) plus they're way too long and > meandering which makes me quickly loose my intrest... maybe if the > guy was a little more original and didn't try so hard to sound like > mr.jenkinson i would pay more attention... the ep is ok though... > i would recommended for people who are new to the fucked up > squarepusheresque vein of dnb... nothing new for veterans though... >
well i'd agree on the caution side, not everyone is going to be bowled over by 12+ mins of enya vs squarepusher. sounds horrible doesn't it, but i couldn't stop playing the thing like a bastard for about 3 weeks. i don't think it sounds anything like "hard normal daddy". why is it that when anyone exploits the freedom of multiple time changes in beats it is immediately labelled as sounding the same as this or that squarepusher record. you might as well state that all techno sounds the same as its based on the same beat. so although squarepusher has certainly made me wince w/ the use of prog/fusion elements that "children at play" wallows in, this has an altogether more epic and smooth sound than tom j's stuff. the production is more animals on wheels if anything. the other track "clive's folly" has me very much in mind of aow, if he attempted a 12 min trance stormer, that is. so quite a lot to offend everyone, but its the very bloody mindedness and sheer energy of the whole exercise that had me playing it so much. more over the top than sound of any new ground being broken. -martin
1998-04-02 23:00spacecakeAt 12:41 PM 4/1/98 -0500, you wrote: >well i'd agree on the caution side, not everyone is
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Thu, 02 Apr 1998 18:00:32 -0500
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At 12:41 PM 4/1/98 -0500, you wrote:
quoted 2 lines well i'd agree on the caution side, not everyone is going to be bowled>well i'd agree on the caution side, not everyone is going to be bowled >over by 12+ mins of enya vs squarepusher.
i've listened to it again and its more like squarepusher vs orbital :-)
quoted 3 lines sounds horrible doesn't it,>sounds horrible doesn't it, >but i couldn't stop playing the thing like a bastard for about 3 weeks. >i don't think it sounds anything like "hard normal daddy".
ok i admit that the EP is enjoyable and has a sense of humour. part of the reason i was being sour with this record is that it sounded so different over real audio on the warp site. actually it sounded really really good over ra, kind of like a dnb version of the phoneica EP... but i still think that in parts it heavily borrows from the squarepusher sound and (now that i listened to it again) elements form orbital. (notice that tremoloed synth whine that sounds exactly like the one on orbital's 'the girl with the sun in her head' or the end of the first track and the orbitalsque looped vocals and moody synth pads...)
quoted 2 lines you might as well state that all techno sounds the>you might as well state that all techno sounds the >same as its based on the same beat.
i'm probably going to get kicked off the list for this but... it does. at least to the untrained ear... that's why none of these pop listening mush-heads can't even distinguish between techno, trance, and house. it's all just 'techno' to them... ...or wrose 'electronica' <hawwwk, spit spit spit, ugh!>
quoted 3 lines so although squarepusher has certainly made me wince w/ the use of>so although squarepusher has certainly made me wince w/ the use of >prog/fusion elements that "children at play" wallows in, this has an >altogether more epic and smooth sound than tom j's stuff.
funny, the 'prog/fusion elements' which TJ incorporates into his tracks is exactly what i dug from the beginning... maybe that's why the Max Tundra EP seemed to sound so much like him...
quoted 1 line more over the top than sound of any new ground being broken.>more over the top than sound of any new ground being broken.
i'll drink to that. peace. PS: did anyone hear of something called 'the landspeed records crossfader entertainment compilation' f/unit mobeious, I-F, route66 etc...? i heard its good... thanks in advance. :spacecake: