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1998-02-15 19:32c r g (idm) revs: ussr reconstruction, animals on wheels, sqp
└─ 1998-02-15 21:35Harvey Devoe Thornburg Re: (idm) revs: ussr reconstruction, animals on wheels, sqp
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1998-02-15 19:32c r gsorry if i'm behind all your buying habits (you already have these) ;) dj vadim: ussr reco
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sorry if i'm behind all your buying habits (you already have these) ;) dj vadim: ussr reconstruction 77 mins track-by-track (original tracknames left out) for those who don't want to read all this, tracks 10 11 12 13 are great, 7 3 4 5 are also worth having. so a little more than half is good.. like a normal compilation ;) i dunno what got into me i never do a big long review like this could someone please tell me if the oval, clatterbox, & reflection tracks are good examples of these groups (never heard them before this).. thanks. accurate descriptions follow: 1. jamie hodge remix staticky old-record-sounding hip-hopish drum loop cut up into slow breakbeats sometimes.. nice groovy bass.. the piano and wahwah things are a bit too smooth for me.. pretty standard trip-hop stuff this track is.. not at all bad tho 2. the prunes remix movie soundtrack-like.. the track is a mix of 'theme from conquest of the irrational', which makes sense.. quite a bit of scratching of the sample of a guy saying "conquest of the irrational".. it makes me think of arabic, the notes are in that scale probly 3. techno animal remix standard hip hop beat.. he plays a low vocal sample in his background all the time, scratching it around slightly (maybe that one mentioned above).. then it gets kinda dark, with an evil bass. after a bit we have some different drums, faster breakbeatish and some analogish bleeps.. remains very evil.. i like it 4. the herbaliser remix sounds like herbaliser.. with a guy rapping in japanese throughout a lot of it! i've never heard it before... cool. a whole lot of excellent scratching later. 5. kid koala mix deep laid back bass, normal hiphopish drums, high jazzy guitar strummin, little tiny wahs.. this weird, i've only ever heard kid k scratch away insanely.. there's some little bits of scratchin mixed in.. instead of making beats with the scratchin like i usually hear from him he uses it for background ambient noises.. 6. vadim vs. daniel pemberton 5.75 minutes of boring unoriginal crap, imo of course.. no interesting sounds, just normal hip hop beat w/ some normal trip hop stuff 7. oval mix i've never heard oval before.. awesome ambience at the beginning, very strange, original.. little crunchy beat starts to come...hmm i expected it to eventually pick up into a beat but it never did. neat sounds, not at all concrete.. 8. jupiter jam mix guitar loop played over and over some guy rapping about something i didn't want to listen to.. guitar changes at the end but that's it 9. dj krush remix awful.. breathy lady keeps going 'ohhhhhhaaaahhhhhhohhhh'.. occassional scratchin. "pretty" trip hop chords in background i guess.. i don't like 10. clatterbox remix awesome heavy weird drum stuff.. fun. little bit of resonated (303-type) notes mixed with scratching.. peaceful background synth chords come in after a couple minutes.. jazzy notes sometimes thenn.. whatever was funny at the beginning has been blended in and this is a seriously nice peace 11. animals on wheels mix great breakbeat stuff, photek-ish, but cuts up and varies more.. much better than the full length i listened to at the store by this guy.. stereo distorted breakbeat later.. great track. gathers a lot of energy. other sounds besides drums are great too 12. reflection mix staticky loops & breakbeats. great looping of weird samples.. fun/spooky notes, bass.. jazzy too if that combination is possible ;) 13. vadim & the sycophants i quite like the ambience, quite like nothing i've ever heard. hiphop beat comes in and out. the analog bleeps, organ blips, noise rushes, little bits of a scratching make it interesting while also melodiless. great tho 14. silent poets remix too slow. big synthy chords & then the standard hip hop beat takes over and we have 2 alternating piano chords for a bit, then the big slow synthy chords come back.. too long too slow. animals on wheels: designs and mistakes didn't buy it from the store, listened to it tho. not too great.. the first few tracks were the most interesting.. the guys job with breakbeats is quite nice sometimes but he gets all disjointed, loses the beat, and unlike squarepusher who does this same thing, he never makes the beat recover. drums sounds were pretty much the same.. on some tracks he would turn distortion on heavy. accompanying sounds were usually a loop of something cool but it played over and over. don't recommend, but the guy has talent. i like his mix on the ussr reconst. a lot squarepusher: burning n' tree oh nevermind i won't review this.. it's all pretty great. if you like the funky sound of squarepusher's bass, his excellent percussion, weird noises, get it, obviously. c.g .. an annoying message will probably follow. stupid program _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]
1998-02-15 21:35Harvey Devoe Thornburg> > animals on wheels: designs and mistakes > didn't buy it from the store, listened to it
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quoted 11 lines animals on wheels: designs and mistakes> > animals on wheels: designs and mistakes > didn't buy it from the store, listened to it tho. not too great.. the > first few tracks were the most interesting.. the guys job with breakbeats > is quite nice sometimes but he gets all disjointed, loses the beat, and > unlike squarepusher who does this same thing, he never makes the beat > recover. drums sounds were pretty much the same.. on some tracks he > would turn distortion on heavy. accompanying sounds were usually a loop > of something cool but it played over and over. don't recommend, but the > guy has talent. i like his mix on the ussr reconst. a lot >
hey -- I like AOW for precisely this reason! Every track starts very innocously, until very subtly the beats get more distorted, sounds like machines continually speeding up + breaking down. With recent Squarepusher, even the frenzied stuff on Big Loada you don't get anywhere near the sense of catastrophe. It takes a few listens to realize AOW has an entirely different rationale, simultaneously more subtle, anti-musical and disturbing. Although I was underwhelmed at first this one *really* grew on me! So who else does stuff strictly in this vein? Have any of the other bovinyl artists made it to CD? I heard of a compilation called "spunk jazz" but I have yet to see it anywhere (reviews anyone?) --Harvey
1998-02-16 15:01Martin_Burbridge@3com.comharvey wrote: >>> > > animals on wheels: designs and mistakes > didn't buy it from the sto
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harvey wrote:
quoted 12 lines animals on wheels: designs and mistakes>>> > > animals on wheels: designs and mistakes > didn't buy it from the store, listened to it tho. not too great.. the > first few tracks were the most interesting.. the guys job with breakbeats > is quite nice sometimes but he gets all disjointed, loses the beat, and > unlike squarepusher who does this same thing, he never makes the beat > recover. drums sounds were pretty much the same.. on some tracks he > would turn distortion on heavy. accompanying sounds were usually a loop > of something cool but it played over and over. don't recommend, but the > guy has talent. i like his mix on the ussr reconst. a lot >
hey -- I like AOW for precisely this reason! Every track starts very innocously, until very subtly the beats get more distorted, sounds like machines continually speeding up + breaking down. With recent Squarepusher, even the frenzied stuff on Big Loada you don't get anywhere near the sense of catastrophe. It takes a few listens to realize AOW has an entirely different rationale, simultaneously more subtle, anti-musical and disturbing. Although I was underwhelmed at first this one *really* grew on me! So who else does stuff strictly in this vein? Have any of the other bovinyl artists made it to CD? I heard of a compilation called "spunk jazz" but I have yet to see it anywhere (reviews anyone?) <<< yes the animals on wheels is a strange beast. a lot of smooth sounds and melodies at the top, which seems to put some people off, and bassy distortion and truly chaotic breaks, in a smash everything up and be damned, rather than complex jazz structure ala squarepusher. which can also put off everyone else. i myself like the mixture of the two, so its fine by me. "spunk jazz" (on ill) is a fine release well worth checking out, get the cd as aow have 2 tracks on that versh, one is missing from the vinyl, though the cd-only trak "f.y.a" has had a couple of good slaggings on the list, and will probably drive you mad at first. a kind of harder, darker and more violent cd which has had me in mind of "spunk jazz", is "industrialsamplecoregouchebeat" by trash (various no future) which is just out and pretty easily available on mille plateaux. vinylwise, "avit" 12" by spymania allstars on spymania, is a must. and i cannot begin to do justice to the madness that is "the death of cool pt 1" 2lp on noodles. groovy jazz, distorto techno played by flipper, stomping righteous floor shakers, mad scratching, clicky percussion, beautiful simple ambience, dub country+western and cola fuelled belching are all present and more. and 4 lock grooves, including the belching. pt 2 is being compiled and i can't wait. i already posted a full long review of "spunk jazz" so i'll fwd that off-list. oh and paddington breaks "smart but casual" 12" on ill should have a proper release today (according to an advert in jockey slut). i hear this is excellent too. -martin