ha ha....Matt, I like You for some reason......Well said fella...
and here is the reason why, you gave a solution, at least regarding bringing
back some of the older music...and this is what is needed...although the IDM
artist have progressed on to different sounds, it doesn't mean that it cant
be just as warm, creative, and for a lack of a better term shocking......but
yes, it does seem that many artist have not maintained the quality of sound
that they previously had...case in point.....John Beltran......Earth &
Nightfall, for me, very nice, very nice initial CD(almost from beginning to
end).......Placid......So sweet, oh so sweet( and this is what made me
REALLY like JB, he did it AGAIN), and then you have 10 Days of
Blue........Fantastic, Brilliant, and a sound that no one else really came
close to producing....after that well........
As the saying goes, "if isn't broke dont fix it"!
I agree with Matt on re-releasing all the older stuff from Detroit and that
"Nuron school" as I like to call it.....also, but as well, some artist on
the list and off it should try to carry the Music on....sorta like the idea
of B12 with Detroit..........as you see, the music now doesn't even compare
with the music then(but you do get nice tunes every once in a while).....and
this would be the way for say a 4th/5th generation of artists to emerge
representing that lush, warm, soulful, melodic and wonderful sound......
And yes, Drift, Row. (and you others over in the UK) tell em, tell
em---especially Stasis......dont leave us to this drudgery!!!!!!!!!
Sincerely, Hk!
-----Original Message-----
From: AeOtaku@aol.com [mailto:AeOtaku@aol.com]
Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2000 1:12 AM
To: idm@hyperreal.org
Subject: (idm) The Good Old Days (Quantified)
I would say the Good Old Days of IDM probably
started with Kraftwerk and Manuel Gottsching and
ended with the break up of the Black Dog, but they
are definitely concentrated from the time of "Strings
of Life" and "Night Drive" to the first albums of B12,
As One, Black Dog, etc. before their later work.
So about 1987-1993. As always I disagree with the
Jet Jaguar about music (I don't think we've ever agreed
on anything) and I pretty much hate the later material
of Kirk, Carl, Plaid, etc. not so much because of the music
itself (which doesn't bother me) but the fact that these
guys don't make tracks like "Nebula Variation", "How the
West Was Won" or "Scoobs In Columbia" anymore. Now
I do realize I can't (and have no right) to tell them what to
as artists but I still hate their current material. This is true
of just about every producer I liked who has "old" material.
It seems in these scene nobody gets better: they just get
worse. In reality they get more developed and gather moss
down the abstract hill, but I prefer the pure techno sound (and
think I am not alone).
On another note, someone out there with connections and
money: there is an extremely lucrative and ethically rewarding
market for legitimate reissues. There have been a lot of people
e-mailing me lamenting that these tracks we're speaking so
highly of aren't available anymore. One person put it best when
they said that it sucks to hear about the greatest IDM tracks to
know he'll never get the chance to hear them. Hey, anybody in
the UK, talk to B12, talk to Kirk, talk to Nuron, talk to Black Dog,
get some clearance and make some nice discography CD's of
old singles and reissue some albums and comps.
On another note, however, in the past year I have seen all of
these available (most not more than once or twice):
Everything on A.R.T.
Everything on B12
Everything on 100% Pure
Everything on Ifach
Everything from Black Dog / Plaid
Everything on Likemind
Everything on Void
Everything on Otherworld
Virtually everything in the old Detroit scene
etc. etc. etc. etc.
So for those with time and money and dedication, they still
go up out there. But obviously there just aren't enough especially
for those who haven't heard the tracks and aren't slamming down
months of looking and piles of cash....
Matt
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