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"smokes_gpcs" <brap@sonic.net> wrote:

quoted 4 lines doesn't anyone feel like they are getting a little something

>doesn't anyone feel like they are getting a little something >extra when a 12" can be played nicely at both speeds? i love the fact >that bubble and squeak (i believe its b&s) actually gives both >speeds...

Yeah, but let's face it, it sounds like pure pap at 33rpm! The 'correct' speed is obviously 45rpm, so I wish the artist/label would cut the bullshit and stop pretending that Tom J knew what it was going to sound like at 33rpm when he made it 45rpm. I think it's pretty patronising to put on a record that it can be played at both speeds - like who in the world doesn't know that? All records can be played any bloody speed you want and it's all opinion as to whether they sound any good at ANY speed. My opinion is - make your music great at one speed and fuck what it sounds like at the other. And that's not wanting to deprive people of listening to their records at the wrong speeds. As I said, I love 'Deep Fried Pizza' at 33rpm, it's great, but no one can say an artist intends their music to sound the way it does at the 'wrong' speed... Having said all this putting both speed on the record would be perfectly valid if they had created parts of the music *at* both speeds ie if they worked on it normally, then took the whole pitch of the track up/down to the speed it would be at 45rpm then worked on it some more, etc... Has anyone ever actually done this? Probably sounds crappy, but I always did want to try it out to see what it would sound like. Guess it would (as usual) depend on how good the person making it was... Gb. np: Kushti - Stromboli (at the intended 45rpm speed, just in case you were wondering!) -- "BIG UP YA CHRISTMAS AND NEW YEAR" from * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * - L@@K WHAT THE CAT DRAGGED iN - ADVENT CRAZY http://www.homeusers.prestel.co.uk/lwtcdi/all/ DAMN JUKEBOX http://www.homeusers.prestel.co.uk/lwtcdi/all/4musjuke.htm * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * X amount of party streamers...

quoted 4 lines it's all down to the physical cutting of the record

>it's all down to the physical cutting of the record > >point is an artist does NOT 'make' material at 33 or 45 rpm, what speed >a record twirls round at is the result of a decision made at the cutting

but jeez, man.. you know what he meant! obviously no one makes music right on a spinning record.. but he meant that an artist makes it at a certain speed and does not know what it'll sound like if played at 73% (33/45) or 136% (45/33) as fast... and happy holidays! ;) chris graves