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1. plaid - not for threes (my favorite CD ever. true pioneers.) 2. Mouse on Mars - Autoditacker 3. Aphex Twin - Come To Daddy 4. jiri.ceiver - jig, amble & lisp (is he overlooked, or does nobody like him?) 5. Vapourspace - Sweep (this would have come in higher, but track 4 destroys the flow, which is very important when almost every track has only one or two notes with filter sweeps. Nobody does it better, or at all, thinks I.) Special mention: Recoil - Unsound Methods This is the biggest piece of capital D Doo-Doo I have ever heard. I will not listen to it a second time, even at gunpoint, well, maybe at gunpoint. Embarassing, trite, stupid, a 105% waste. I expected something half listenable after his last couple of efforts. This "sucks", to use the industry lingo. Hey, wanna buy my copy? I will stop short of saying Alan Wilder's near-death experience (almost hit by a plane that fell out of the sky) was not near enough, since that would be unkind. There used to be a dictum here that one should not criticize a work unless she or he could do better. Well, your three-year-old nephew could do better with two popsicle sticks and an egg carton. (That's how I recorded my own superior version of IZ-US, BTW.) Take care. Mr. Gil gil@L0PHT.COM (L-zero-P-H-T) No authority is self-justified. Resist. Visit The Compendium of Allowable Knowledge http://WWW.L0PHT.COM/~gil/ FREE MUMIA ABU-JAMAL. END THE RACIST DEATH PENALTY.

quoted 4 lines Special mention: Recoil - Unsound Methods

>Special mention: Recoil - Unsound Methods >This is the biggest piece of capital D Doo-Doo I have ever heard. I >will not listen to it a second time, even at gunpoint, well, maybe at >gunpoint.

I must 2nd that one. I was expecting perhaps DM without the words. However, this album is utter shit. I usually don't use such negative remarks, but this album warrants it. Those catchy electronics are all gone. What's happened Mr. Wilder? I normally wouldn't post to the list just to complain about an album, but listening to this album is like watching a deer who's just been hit by a car stumble off the road. Don't buy this album. just my $.15 --brian rachielles idm review archive: www.geocities.com/paris/metro/9160 audio on kcsb fm santa barbara intelligent techno/dnb: www.geocities.com/sunsetstrip/club/4980

On Mon, 22 Dec 1997 brachielles@juno.com wrote:

quoted 2 lines listening to this album is like watching a deer who's just been hit by a

> listening to this album is like watching a deer who's just been hit by a > car stumble off the road.

Fucking hell! This gets my vote for analogy of the year. Kick ass, Brian! Greg

At 04:49 PM 12/22/97 PST, brachielles@juno.com wrote:

quoted 2 lines I was expecting perhaps DM without the words.

>I was expecting perhaps DM without the words. >However, this album is utter shit.

To gauge your bassline accurately, what do you think of the first Recoil efforts? I.e. "Hydrology", "1+2", etc? They too don't sound like "DM without the words", but they are in my opinion *most* excellent, particularly for when they came out. Then again, I didn't really care for Bloodlines myself. Brian --=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-- "Optimism is a strategy for making brian@apache.org a better future." - Noam Chomsky brian@hyperreal.org

Dear All, At 16:49 1997-12-22 PST, brachielles@juno.com wrote:

quoted 4 lines I must 2nd that one. I was expecting perhaps DM without the words.

>I must 2nd that one. I was expecting perhaps DM without the words. >However, this album is utter shit. I usually don't use such negative >remarks, but this album warrants it. Those catchy electronics are all >gone. What's happened Mr. Wilder?

Those "catchy electronics" went in 1990 or something. Did neither of you listen to his second album as Recoil - Bloodlines - a record somewhat in the same vein as Unsound Methods, albeit not as dark. If you did you should have heard that Alan is not about either Just Can't Get Enough, Master and Servant or Strangelove. I agree, it's not as good as "Bloodlines", "Violator" or anything else that he has produced, I'm not much into the industrial side of the biznizz much, but I REALLY appreciate the album's production, Alan is God in my eyes, this album hasn't changed a thing. Four (4!!) people took his place on the new DM album and still they didn't do it half as well as Alan would've. (for you who haven't heard it)"Unsound Methods" (Mute records, CD/2x12") is not like anything spawned from the DM crew before. It's rhythmically very complex (no, not just 64notes played really fast through a delay box like on our favorite Daddy-release etc) and very atmospheric. It sounds as if Alan DID really get that airplane in his head. Wicked, dark and moody. Guest vocalists include Douglas McCarthy (of former Nitzer Ebb. Long live Nitzer Ebb), Siobhan Lynch and Hildia Campbell. I dunno what do say, I really like some parts of it, other's I don't dig much at all. But then again, as I said, I'm not into this whole industrial thing.

quoted 3 lines I normally wouldn't post to the list just to complain about an album, but

>I normally wouldn't post to the list just to complain about an album, but >listening to this album is like watching a deer who's just been hit by a >car stumble off the road. Don't buy this album.

Don't buy this album if you expect a new Depeche Mode album (like you fellas obviously have done). If you want to listen to one of the last 20 years greatest electronic music producer's ramblings in the realms of industrialtrippyrhythmdrugmusic, do. Slightly off topic, but I just felt that I had to give a bit more shaded off picture of this album. Fe. - plodulism!: http://gargamel.com/plod -->--> = ) - =-= = '''''''''' - - updated: various discog's., jega, dot, '''' -/ - - - ] '''''''' - - etc. go to: http://gargamel.com/frankie ''' = -.. =-= = '''908285' -

quoted 6 lines To gauge your bassline accurately, what do you think of the first

>To gauge your bassline accurately, what do you think of the first >Recoil >efforts? I.e. "Hydrology", "1+2", etc? They too don't sound like "DM >without the words", but they are in my opinion *most* excellent, >particularly for when they came out. Then again, I didn't really care >for Bloodlines myself.

Honestly, I haven't heard the other Recoil releases. I have been passively looking for them for years, but have never come across any of them in the stores. I will certainly take a listen to them, as I literally grew up on DM records and Alan's beautiful programming/production. I think I was so excited to finally be able to hear some of his recent output, that my expectations really far exceed what reality could have produced. I am certainly glad that there are other opinions out there (thank you Franz), and my opinions certainly are to be taken with a grain of salt. --brian rachielles idm review archive: www.geocities.com/paris/metro/9160 audio on kcsb fm santa barbara intelligent techno/dnb: www.geocities.com/sunsetstrip/club/4980