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(idm) 13/4 and re: disjecta?

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1997-12-11 15:10Brad Shelton (idm) 13/4 and re: disjecta?
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1997-12-11 15:10Brad Shelton>Big deal. Not to dis DJ Suv for being brave enough to venture >outside the confines of 4/
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quoted 4 lines Big deal. Not to dis DJ Suv for being brave enough to venture>Big deal. Not to dis DJ Suv for being brave enough to venture >outside the confines of 4/4, but T-Power does 13/4, which is a >bit more difficult. Try counting out "13 Over 4" on Breakbeat >Science 2.
"Odd" time-signatures are actually not that big-a-deal[a]. For example, a 13/4 measure could be subdivided by the musician (whether programming or playing live) into two 4/4 bars + one 5/4 bar. Alternatively, the musician could break it down as three 3/4 bars + one 4/4 bar... there are many combinations. The point is, whacky-sounding time-signatures are in many cases the musical equivalent of "$10 words"[a].. the same can be accomplished with fundamental 3/4 and 4/4 measures in combination. That having been said, I'm skeptical that the T-Power track in question is 13/4. If it was, you'd be hearing 3 pretty standard d-n-b measures (the 4/4) with an extra beat thrown in here and there (the lone 5/4), nothing too terribly extreme[a]. The title "13 Over 4" may refer to time signature but it may just as well refer to a much more funkified polyrhythmic idea, cramming/embossing 13 subdivisions into/onto a standard 4/4 structure. Now *that* would be something. :) [a] But still musically interesting.
quoted 6 lines Any hints on whether or not to buy Disjecta (burnished gold cover,> Any hints on whether or not to buy Disjecta (burnished gold cover, > something "pit" something something ??) which is on not greatly > reduced sale - only one copy (Warp). > > Also : There's a copy of Off & Gone "Everest" (Harthouse) - same > price situation (ie +- 2/3 full price). Is this worth it?
I like the Disjecta just fine, but it's a hard listen. In my opinion it doesn't have much of a Seefeel sound at all. Try before you buy, I'd say. The previous Disjecta, "Looking for Snags", is a better starting place if you're interested in Clifford's solo work. I'm surprised nobody's spoken up yet about the Off & Gone.. it's gotten some very positive attention from a few list members in the past. Their comments prompted me to pick it up on sight a few weeks ago, and I was not disappointed. Their sound is hard to describe, which is probably the best recommendation; they aren't a sound-alike outfit. All but a couple of tracks feature 303(-ish) lines, and a couple make use of a female vocalist (sampled and manipulated) to great, great effect, and there's even a flanged guitar on track 5. The beats are inventive and original (some are stellar) while retaining a solid trance vibe. Pick it up. :) - Brad bshelton@cte.net
1997-12-12 08:46tom allaini love alternate time signatures, but i wont freak out until someones pulls it off as well
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i love alternate time signatures, but i wont freak out until someones pulls it off as well as brubek in 'take 5' - still a favorite all-time tune. & my dad turned me on to it when i was a wee bittie. .sig .dig .oog. .sti. .mul. .eye. ö