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1997-11-12 18:43Anthony Ewers (idm) Blame & Taxing
1997-11-14 02:47funny little mult Re: (idm) Blame & Taxing
├─ 1997-10-14 02:38original soundmaster (idm) ApartHouse
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1997-11-12 18:43Anthony EwersHas anyone heard that (rip-off) jazzy track by Blame (on Good Looking) which *totally* pla
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Has anyone heard that (rip-off) jazzy track by Blame (on Good Looking) which *totally* plagiarizes a whole virtually song by Nobukazu Takemura called !? 'let my fish loose'; it's on the 'Childs View' album. I read a review recently where Blame was oh-so dilligently explaining how he spent ages creating an authentic jazz groove (oh no he didn't), leaves me wondering whether he/Good Looking got sample clearance for that.
1997-11-14 02:47funny little multOn Wed, 12 Nov 1997 18:43:14 +0000 Anthony Ewers <anthony@phatmac.demon.co.uk> writes: >Ha
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On Wed, 12 Nov 1997 18:43:14 +0000 Anthony Ewers <anthony@phatmac.demon.co.uk> writes:
quoted 3 lines Has anyone heard that (rip-off) jazzy track by Blame (on Good Looking)>Has anyone heard that (rip-off) jazzy track by Blame (on Good Looking) >which *totally* plagiarizes a whole virtually song by Nobukazu >Takemura called !? 'let my fish loose'; it's on the 'Childs View' album.
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quoted 2 lines a review recently where Blame was oh-so dilligently explaining how he>a review recently where Blame was oh-so dilligently explaining how he >spent ages creating an authentic jazz groove (oh no he didn't), leaves
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quoted 1 line wondering whether he/Good Looking got sample clearance for that.>wondering whether he/Good Looking got sample clearance for that.
I haven't heard the blame track in question, but i have heard the afx remix of let my fish loose and the first time i heard it, the first thing that popped into my head was 'good god why don't one of those drum n' bassers sample this' it was just so obvious, the jazzy little bass line, all out and ready to be ripped. I'm actually surprised that richard didn't do more with this. I was expecting it to break out into one of those totally fucked up funglist outings (like his excellent mix of Phillip Boa), but it ends up just dull and outright boring; just the bassline looped with childrens voices and such (if my memory serves me, i can't find the tape). Either way, whatever blame did to that track can't challenge the horrible sin notorious b.i.g/puff daddy commited by ripping that riff from herb alpert's rise and morphing it into one of those faux-pop-mtvized-hiphop tracks (and they stole the vocal hook from snoop doggy dogg!) erm...I don't want to get into a puffy sampling thread, so here's some musical stuffs: Review: Atom Heart: Apart (recent programmings/semaphore) With a massivly prolific output, it's impossible to keep up with all of Uwe Schmidt's (Atom Heart's) works, I missed this one, but caught it on a sale list a while back, so i grabbed it then. A glance at the cover seems a bit to similar to the [bland] graphics on the clear Metamatics discs. you know... little banner of tape across the spine, track listing on back, some random seeming pic on the front. A lovely photo of a volvo (my kinda car! ;-) taxi on the front (same pic graces both of the labels!) Anyway, as for the music: the original songs are definetly up with some of my favorite stuff i've heard from him. Too bad two of the three remixes can't really live up to the original. I'm not sure when this came out, but the two original trax (apart and apart2) sound like a more upbeat, danceable version of the stuff on the mectics (schematics) 12". The Lisa Carbon remix take those deep bleepy sounds and morph them into her (his?;-) trademark jazzy-ness. Too bad the ian pooley mix on the flip side is such shit. repeative 4/4 with the beeps from the original tossed aimlessly on top. And the Matthew Herbert mix, which i had such high hopes for, starts off nice, more of the deep bloops, but all in all the track ends up just being a boring rehash of the pooley mix. Keep it on the A side folks... bye, m*lt s*nt*
1997-10-14 02:38original soundmaster>Review: >Atom Heart: Apart (recent programmings/semaphore) >her (his?;-) trademark jazzy-
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quoted 2 lines Review:>Review: >Atom Heart: Apart (recent programmings/semaphore)
quoted 3 lines her (his?;-) trademark jazzy-ness. Too bad the ian pooley mix on the>her (his?;-) trademark jazzy-ness. Too bad the ian pooley mix on the >flip side is such shit. repeative 4/4 with the beeps from the original >tossed aimlessly on top.
Awwww. This is one of my favorite house tracks ever! Of course, a little liquor and a little booty while listening to the track never hurt my impression of it! Does other Pooley material sound like this? House = Sex! g. [on a one month long house-high, and still unable to come down.]
1997-11-14 05:14Lance C. McGannonAt 09:38 PM 10/13/97 -0500, you wrote: >>Review: >>Atom Heart: Apart (recent programmings/
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At 09:38 PM 10/13/97 -0500, you wrote:
quoted 11 lines Review:>>Review: >>Atom Heart: Apart (recent programmings/semaphore) > >>her (his?;-) trademark jazzy-ness. Too bad the ian pooley mix on the >>flip side is such shit. repeative 4/4 with the beeps from the original >>tossed aimlessly on top. > >Awwww. This is one of my favorite house tracks ever! Of course, a little >liquor and a little booty while listening to the track never hurt my >impression of it! Does other Pooley material sound like this? >
No. Ian Pooley's stuff is really much better than that remix. Try his lp/cd on Force Inc called The Times for a real taste of pooley's smooth house touch. -->-Lance--- p.o. box 450715 westlake, ohio 44145 united states
1997-11-14 10:39Anthony Ewers>Either way, whatever blame did to that track can't >challenge the horrible sin notorious
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quoted 5 lines Either way, whatever blame did to that track can't>Either way, whatever blame did to that track can't >challenge the horrible sin notorious b.i.g/puff daddy commited by ripping >that riff from herb alpert's rise and morphing it into one of those >faux-pop-mtvized-hiphop tracks (and they stole the vocal hook from snoop >doggy dogg!) erm...
You really need to hear the track, the vocal is dropped, a keyboard sound is added, a few beat shuffles here and there, and the drums get a little stronger (sounds like two samples of the same beat playing simultaneously); they are the *only* differences. Another Tax Adam F used the melody from Bob James' Wenchester Lady. Adam F got sued and pays Bob James *95%* of all publishing royalties on the single, and a disproportionate (35% I think) share of royalties generated by the album, Adam F didn't ask for permission to use the sample which is only 3/4 seconds of music, tut, tut, tut... I haven't got much time for Notorious B.I.G or Puff Daddy, but I think you'll find they actually clear their samples before they release tracks (the legal way). This is prudent as people are not afraid to sue these days especially if they've got the cash to, and your rip-off of a track makes enough money to for it to be worthwhile sueing you. Also I'm not talking about mere morphing, I'm talking about straight up sample, loop, & hey listen to my new tune! Press it, fuck the original artist & make some money out of very little creative input. I also don't think Notorious or Puff Daddy claimed to have maticulously crafted the music in their tunes (too many people know they are blatant samples anyway) as Blame did in a few interviews he gave. Notorious (RIP) and Blame are just happy to look stoned, dribble, and give one word/unintelligible answers...