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1997-10-24 18:33-0Y'all forgot: ISOPHLUX records...... (818) 990-3280 g

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Y'all forgot: ISOPHLUX records...... (818) 990-3280 g

1997-10-24 18:36-0scott wrote: > > ...and then there's: > > source I sure love source, but I wouldn't say th

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Date:: Fri, 24 Oct 1997 18:36:36 +0000
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scott wrote:

quoted 4 lines ...and then there's:

> > ...and then there's: > > source

I sure love source, but I wouldn't say they're breaking any new ground. One of my favorite labels, however:) -0

1997-10-24 20:31ReZOn8oR@aol.comHey all...this is sort of a 2-sided question....first, in the broader sense, where does ID

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Date:: Fri, 24 Oct 1997 16:31:26 -0400 (EDT)
Subject:: (idm) where do we go next?

Hey all...this is sort of a 2-sided question....first, in the broader sense, where does IDM go next? I'm inclined to think that in the fairly near future, IDM artists will have tired of expanding rhythm, and will move on to innovations in melody, harmony, and more strange time sigs....I for one would like to see more attention paid to harmony....an element that seems to be somewhat lacking in some IDM work. As for the other side of the question, where do I personally go next? I've basically heard all I feel like hearing (for now at least) of the major IDM-ish artists (Aphex, Squarepusher, Orb, Orbital, et al), and explored all that I want to on the Rephlex label. I'm interested in Atom Heart, but I can't find much info on them (him?). Also, as I mentioned before, I'm interested in Sabres of Paradise, and a lot of the Warp back catalog that I never got around to hearing. Finally, is there anyone out there besides Pentatonik and Off & Gone that has an Orbital-esque sound to them? Yes, I know a lot of you aren't fans of Orbital, but I'm looking for stuff that pleases me, so don't butt in. Anyway, info/opinions on either (or both) part(s) of the question are welcome, but I will ask that if you only have info on the last part of the question, send it to me privately. Thanks. --Matt

1997-10-24 22:19multsanta@juno.com>where do I personally go next? >where does IDM go next? well... presenting: "Multsanta's

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Date:: Fri, 24 Oct 1997 18:19:49 -0400
Subject:: (idm) where we will go next (long)

quoted 2 lines where do I personally go next?

>where do I personally go next? >where does IDM go next?

well... presenting: "Multsanta's big list of fifteen post rephlex/warp labels to look out for." skam - definetly one of the best idm labels in a while. roster includes: jega, gescom, boards of canada look at: http://www1.linkonline.net/fresh/skam/skam.htm spymania - screwy "fungle" label. former home to tom j. roster includes: squarepusher, wafta, dial look at: http://www1.linkonline.net/fresh/spymania.htm planet mu - ok, not exactly a SMALL label, as it is distributed by virgin and run by long idmer Mike Paradinas, but Mike has picked up some of the most innovative artists around. look for the comp, 'mealtime' sometime later this year. roster includes: Mu-Ziq, Jega, Boards Of Canada, Like-A-Tim, Horse Opera look at: planet mu site, coming soon from kungfunk (aka horse opera) dot - sweedish label with a constant stream of new releases, varying styles. roster includes: hab, friend, quant, tupilaq look at: http://www.gargamel.com/~dot/ http://www.nons.com/dot/ (official; coming soon) http://www.sonic.net/~brap/dot/ musik aus strom- german label in the vein of skam. run by those funky distortions funkstorung. roster includes: funkstorung, freeform, andre estermann. look at: web site by me coming soon worm interface - in store label of ambient soho. mixed batch of releases. roster includes: tom jenkinson, freeform, dunderhead plug research - experimental electronic label that, surprisingly, does not get more talk around here. check out the comp 'plug research and devolpment' roster includes: Low Res, Smyglissina, and Mr. Hazeltine (John Tejada) look at: web page coming soon. v/vm-the 'skam/ae/manchester' style mixed with noise tracks and other experimentations. roster includes: professer broxburn, datathief. look at: the studio moo site (can't find url; brian?) schematics - experimental miami label with harsh sound experiments running into beautiful melodies. roster includes: takeshi, metics, push button objects look at: web site by gonzi coming soon carpet bomb - new york 'drill n' bass' with smooth melodies and the such roster includes: microstudio, unagai patrol. look at: web site by them coming soon drop beat - California label/store with experimental, fuck up rhythms. roster includes: david kristian, downpour, cheesie. look at: http://www.dropbeat.com/ freerange - breakbeat driven jazz label led by jamie o'dell roster includes: jamie o'dell (aka jimpster, audiomontage), DK Finn, ill - 'drill n' bass' label with new comp 'spunk jazz' feat si begg, paddington breaks, and more of the spymania and bovinyl (yeach...) krews. mfr - you know him, you love him, our very own 'sm' the upcoming comp isn't out yet, but anything with BoC and V/Vm (the artist) can't be bad. look at: http://www.dspace.pipex.com/mfr/ suction - haven't heard anything yet, but this canadian label has been getting great reviews. roster: lowfish, solvent, david kristian for reviews for some of the stuff on drop beat, carpet bomb, v/vm, and others look at my web site (url in sig)

quoted 1 line and explored all that I want to on the Rephlex label.

>and explored all that I want to on the Rephlex label.

have you checked any of the earlier stuff? there was a time when rephlex put out interesting and intelligent music, rather than just jokes, pisstakes, and bochum welt.

quoted 2 lines I'm

>I'm >interested in Atom Heart, but I can't find much info on them (him?)

him (Uwe Schmidt). well, part of the reason you can't find his stuff is because most of the recent items are under various monikers. I don't have a lot of his stuff, but for starters check out the Real Intelligence series on rather interesting (his label, just about everything on it is by him). it highlights a lot of the rather interesting material. I also dig the lisa carbon stuff, but i'm not exactly sure (is anyone?) if it's him under alias or if there actually is a Lisa Carbon, who works with him a lot. For more info check out the (outdated) discography @ hyperreal http://www.hyperreal.org/music/artists/atom_heart/ there you will find a link to the (not outdated) rather interesting discography. hope this is a good start. as for finding the stuff... I know that etherworld used to have a good selection, but I'm pretty sure they don't do music anymore or something like that :-( otherwise, just try the biggies: modern music, mfr, etc. I know pj@mm recently got in the lisa carbon disc on rephlex (waiting for mine...) hope this helps... mult...... http://rampage.ml.org/users/~multsanta/ [mu-ziq.darcangelo.reviews.++]

1997-10-24 22:44gg2g4ink@sprynet.com>well... >presenting: >"Multsanta's big list of fifteen post rephlex/warp labels to look o

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Date:: Fri, 24 Oct 1997 15:44:28 -0700
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quoted 3 lines well...

>well... >presenting: >"Multsanta's big list of fifteen post rephlex/warp labels to look out for."

they're all GOOD labels, but they're probably not the future of electronic music. basically, all they offering are tweaks and subtle new tricks on very traditional forms. that's where we are. that's where we've been. it would be stagnation or, worse, regression to plow ahead by running in place. if you want music far ahead of its time, you're talking... Rastermusic Mego Lo Recordings S?kh? a-musik Iris Light Noise Museum Switch VV/M NTone Irdial Soup-Disk Mille Plateaux t:me recordings (em:t series) Plug Research (i generally agree about this one) these are the mavericks. they are destined to be underappreciated now, their (often tiny) operations are hardly able to compete for airspace and page-space with those labels currently borne aloft on the shoulders of the press as The Messiahs of Electronica [sic]. yet what they are doing is consistently pushing the music forward and dissolving boundaries. too many of these other labels are putting out reliable - but admittedly retread - records. but these labels - and many others - are daring to be different. progress isn't always lush and harmonic. and you can't always dance to it. and, c'mon... i'm sure Stuart will be putting out fine music. but isn't it a little premature to hail a label without a single release as a herald of IDM's bright future? you may well be 100% right about MFR, but why not hold off on the plaudits and the back-slapping until we actually HEAR an MFR record? ;-) just my $0.02 (or ?.0125) GuerillaG2-G4/ gg gg2g4ink@sprynet.com

1997-10-24 23:19brap@sonic.net> dot - sweedish label with a constant stream of new releases, varying > styles. > roster

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quoted 6 lines dot - sweedish label with a constant stream of new releases, varying

> dot - sweedish label with a constant stream of new releases, varying > styles. > roster includes: hab, friend, quant, tupilaq > look at: http://www.gargamel.com/~dot/ > http://www.nons.com/dot/ (official; coming soon) > http://www.sonic.net/~brap/dot/

Actually, I removed my Dot site... the plod folk have a *great* dot site and it seemed crazy to keep my page up when these two are running a site that might as well be the official site. well worth checking the page out... its an amazing label! Chris brap@sonic.net http://www.sonic.net/~brap/ Black Dog, Genesis P-Orridge, Whitezone-L, etc. http://www.sonic.net/~brap/list.html CD / Vinyl Trade List - Want List C.Gosselin, PO Box 8264, Santa Rosa, CA 95407

1997-10-24 23:20gg2g4ink@sprynet.comfour more labels which will prove extremely important to the shaping of IDM's future. just

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Date:: Fri, 24 Oct 1997 16:20:56 -0700
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four more labels which will prove extremely important to the shaping of IDM's future. just can't leave these out... Asphodel Clear Language Filter another $0.02? GuerillaG2-G4/ gg gg2g4ink@sprynet.com ps: anyone seen an "'re?" one vanished from the first line of my last post. curious. np - blue - tba- (iris light) the EAOsters. back in action; leaner n' badder than ever.

1997-10-24 23:46thomas m weibrechtOn Fri, 24 Oct 1997 16:20:56 -0700 gg2g4ink@sprynet.com writes: >four more labels which wi

From:: thomas m weibrecht <tweibrecht@juno.com>
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Date:: Fri, 24 Oct 1997 19:46:01 EDT
Subject:: Re: (idm) where we will go next (long)

On Fri, 24 Oct 1997 16:20:56 -0700 gg2g4ink@sprynet.com writes:

quoted 9 lines four more labels which will prove extremely important to the shaping

>four more labels which will prove extremely important to the shaping >of IDM's >future. just can't leave these out... > > Asphodel > Clear > Language > Filter >

gotta add: sub-rosa ash axiom sub-meta wordsound and (god forbid) fax flame away tom w np: antiphony (ash)

1997-10-24 23:52Greg ClowOn Fri, 24 Oct 1997, thomas m weibrecht wrote: > gotta add: > > ash Not anymore. The recen

From:: Greg Clow <stained@interlog.com>
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Date:: Fri, 24 Oct 1997 19:52:40 -0400 (EDT)
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On Fri, 24 Oct 1997, thomas m weibrecht wrote:

quoted 3 lines gotta add:

> gotta add: > > ash

Not anymore. The recent "Decay" compilation is the final Ash release. The related Touch label remains, however. I'll probably write some more stuff in response to the earlier posts to this thread sometime over the weekend. I'll also be adding a label called Payola to the list... more on that later... Greg PS: Rephlex auction is going insane. http://www.interlog.com/~stained/rephlex.txt - before it's too late!

1997-10-25 00:06Scott Cullun...and then there's: source ayodya electron industries scott >Date: Fri, 24 Oct 1997 16:20

From:: Scott Cullun <spaceinvaders@hotmail.com>
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Date:: Fri, 24 Oct 1997 17:06:43 PDT
Subject:: Re: (idm) where we will go next (long)

...and then there's: source ayodya electron industries scott

quoted 6 lines Date: Fri, 24 Oct 1997 16:20:56 -0700

>Date: Fri, 24 Oct 1997 16:20:56 -0700 >From: gg2g4ink@sprynet.com >Subject: Re: (idm) where we will go next (long) >To: idm@hyperreal.org > >four more labels which will prove extremely important to the shaping of

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quoted 22 lines future. just can't leave these out...

>future. just can't leave these out... > > Asphodel > Clear > Language > Filter > >another $0.02? > >GuerillaG2-G4/ gg >gg2g4ink@sprynet.com > >ps: anyone seen an "'re?" > one vanished from the first line of my last post. curious. > > >np - blue - tba- (iris light) > the EAOsters. back in action; leaner n' badder than ever. > > > >

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1997-10-25 01:04multsanta@juno.comOn Fri, 24 Oct 1997 15:44:28 -0700 gg2g4ink@sprynet.com writes: >Rastermusic >Mego >Lo Rec

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Date:: Fri, 24 Oct 1997 21:04:16 -0400
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On Fri, 24 Oct 1997 15:44:28 -0700 gg2g4ink@sprynet.com writes:

quoted 4 lines Rastermusic

>Rastermusic >Mego >Lo Recordings >S?kh?

<LONG LIST OF VARIOUS LABELS SNIPPED> yes, a few of these i was going to add, but was kinda pressed. for time and just put some of the most obvious and the stuff that i am really into at the moment. I never stated that this was a definitive or complete list. I was expecting some expansion... I guess I was a bit presumptuous about the titles 'where we will go next' and 'fifteen post rephlex/warp labels to look out for.' I should have just left it at 'a few recommendations or something along those lines. <<they are destined to be underappreciated now, their (often tiny) operations are hardly able to compete for airspace and page-space with those labels currently borne aloft on the shoulders of the press as The Messiahs of Electronica [sic]. yet what they are doing is consistently pushing the music forward and dissolving boundaries.>> agreed << too many of these other labels are putting out reliable - but admittedly retread - records. but these labels - and many others - are daring to be different. >> this i'd like you to expand on. I dare you to name any one of the labels I listed as "reliable - but admittedly retread" (ok maybe skam, dot, and worm interface... but twelve out of fifteen ain't bad :-) <<progress isn't always lush and harmonic. and you can't always dance to it.>> hmm... who said v/vm was 'lush and harmonic' or danceble?? or is this some sort of metaphor i'm missing? <<and, c'mon... i'm sure Stuart will be putting out fine music. but isn't it a little premature to hail a label without a single release as a herald of IDM's bright future? you may well be 100% right about MFR, but why not hold off on the plaudits and the back-slapping until we actually HEAR an MFR record? ;-) >> got me there. There is no way in hell i'm even gonna try and argue this. I'm just VERY interested in hearing the BoC track (and those 10 sec. sound samples from "Boc Maxima"@ ehx didn't help, just make me want it more. didn't that cosmic crafter fellow say something about repressing this and the first 12", or selling them over the web page or something?) mult...... http://rampage.ml.org/users/~multsanta/ [mu-ziq.darcangelo.reviews.++]

1997-10-24 18:18brap@sonic.net> There is no way in hell i'm even gonna try and argue this. > I'm just VERY interested in

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Date:: Fri, 24 Oct 1997 18:18:18 +0000
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quoted 6 lines There is no way in hell i'm even gonna try and argue this.

> There is no way in hell i'm even gonna try and argue this. > I'm just VERY interested in hearing the BoC track (and those 10 sec. > sound samples from "Boc Maxima"@ ehx didn't help, just make me want it > more. > didn't that cosmic crafter fellow say something about repressing this and > the first 12", or selling them over the web page or something?)

hopefully he'll have a bit better than 10 sec sound samples up soon (but have to get back in touch with him) as for the 1st 12", i though he was simply attempting to pick any remaining ones up... may be wrong about this (hope i am, its very nice)... i more hope they get some of those 20 track demos done up... Chris brap@sonic.net http://www.sonic.net/~brap/ Black Dog, Genesis P-Orridge, Whitezone-L, etc. http://www.sonic.net/~brap/list.html CD / Vinyl Trade List - Want List C.Gosselin, PO Box 8264, Santa Rosa, CA 95407

1997-10-25 01:46thomas m weibrechtOn Fri, 24 Oct 1997 19:52:40 -0400 (EDT) Greg Clow <stained@interlog.com> writes: > > >On

From:: thomas m weibrecht <tweibrecht@juno.com>
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Cc:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Fri, 24 Oct 1997 21:46:54 EDT
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On Fri, 24 Oct 1997 19:52:40 -0400 (EDT) Greg Clow <stained@interlog.com> writes:

quoted 12 lines On Fri, 24 Oct 1997, thomas m weibrecht wrote:

> > >On Fri, 24 Oct 1997, thomas m weibrecht wrote: > >> gotta add: >> >> ash > >Not anymore. The recent "Decay" compilation is the final Ash release. >The >related Touch label remains, however. >

now THATS a disappointment....r.i.p. ash...i wish u had had a greater following... tom w np: nico - the end

1997-10-25 12:10Tsog5000@aol.comIn a message dated 10/24/97 6 22 11 PM, you wrote: >>four more labels which will prove ext

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Date:: Sat, 25 Oct 1997 08:10:54 -0400 (EDT)
Subject:: Re: (idm) where we will go next (long)

In a message dated 10/24/97 6 22 11 PM, you wrote:

quoted 10 lines four more labels which will prove extremely important to the shaping

>>four more labels which will prove extremely important to the shaping >>of IDM's >>future. just can't leave these out... >> >>Asphodel >> Clear >> Language >> Filter > >gotta add:

quoted 7 lines sub-rosa

>sub-rosa >ash >axiom >sub-meta >wordsound >and (god forbid) >fax

and of course: A13 leaf lo plus 8 have a new side label out called development which is kind of interesting drop beat reflective (if they ever release any more stuff... which I have a feeling they will.) mego cheap sabotage damnit! to much neat stuff. where will we go next? we will go into debt. t.S.o.G.