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quoted 3 lines From: guido@syncnet.dmrt.nl (Guido Klerk)

> From: guido@syncnet.dmrt.nl (Guido Klerk) > UFO is, once again, great. Maybe his best so far. All the other PKT- > releases (his own Photek label) are worth buying to say the least.

Agreed. Especially 'Water Margin' (4)...

quoted 3 lines He released more than 35 records so far. Oops. Except for the PKT's

> He released more than 35 records so far. Oops. Except for the PKT's > and the "Natural born killer EP" on Metalheads (which is quite > different than the PKT's, more usual)

^^^^^^^^^^ Bollocks. 'Consciousness' is at least as experimental as all the PTK stuff. Listen to those beats and sounds! And a 90bpm headnodder ('Into The 90s') on a jungle EP is not exactly usual...

quoted 2 lines i've never seen them. There are some rumours he's also Aquarius on

> i've never seen them. There are some rumours he's also Aquarius on > Looking good (or Good looking) but it sounds shite...

He *is* Aquarius. And he has also recorded as Sentinel for Basement, plus put stuff out on Certificate 18. The Aquarius stuff is worth checking out, although it's a bit more orthdox. Off the top of my head: Aquarius - Drift To The Centre (Looking Good 2) Aquarius - Dolphin Tune/Aquatic (Good Looking 9) Aquarius & Tayla - Bringing Me Down (Good Looking 13) All his pseudonyms were discussed on Breaks a while ago. If you like Photek, there's loads of others you should check out - Source Direct, Skanna (not the Rimbaud one), Certificate 18, Reinforced, J Majik/IR, Hidden Agenda to name a few. Do not underestimate the importance and brilliance of innovative jungle... :) Anyone got any news of the ART/Photek release? Changing the subject entirely: Just got Herbert - Part 3 (Phono). Only 500 in existence until the box set comes out. Definitely more floor- friendly and accessible than 2, but sheer brilliance all the same. Still after 'Radio', 'D is for Doctor'; and is Herbert - Part 1 worth hunting down... (btw: Herbert is the deep house/techno guise of Matt Herbert aka Wishmountain and Dr Rockit, all fucking amazing stuff) see ya ____________________________________________________ tom churchill e-mail: tom@chrchfam.demon.co.uk 'each new hour holds new chances for new beginnings' dj/musician/clubber/reviewer......scene but not herd ____________________________________________________

t2ep suggested:

quoted 2 lines I do believe it's about time to put Mr. Parkes under the IDM microscope,

>I do believe it's about time to put Mr. Parkes under the IDM microscope, >especially in light of all the ANTI-squarepusher sentiment around here.

as an early instigator of said sentiments, i feel compelled to respond (part. since i ended my first sp remarks with the observation that i bought _hidden camera_ instead of _feed_).

quoted 4 lines IMO what Rupert has been doing (although extremely original) is as

>IMO what Rupert has been doing (although extremely original) is as >formulaic as what T.J. Pusherman has done. Also, there seem to be >in my ears a familiar *thinness* to his breaks...dare I attribute this >to a digital Vs analog approach?

i agree with this criticism, at least with the photek i've been able to actually track down. i own only _ufo_ and _hidden camera_, neither of which i find particularly marvelous, but both of which seem to hold my attention longer than, say, anything i've heard out of squarep. coming at drum'n'bass from an ambient perspective (and no i don't think tpower's all that), it makes sense that i would hold mr. parkes in higher acclaim, considering the degree of attention to mood and atmosphere one finds in many of his tracks. imo, parkes is able--through use of space, dynamics, contrast, and other elements of composition that i don't find very much of in, say, any of the tracks on _feed me weird things_--to say more by way of extremity in a single bolt-action click sample (c.f. "hidden camera") than most of the messy, hyperventilated noodlings of squarepusher. now, that's fine in the scheme of things, but neither do i think photek, at least in his most recent output, is pushing his sound much. whenever a new opart single comes my way i get excited to hear the sort of intricate detail and creative beat manipulation of, say, the truper track on colduct's mix cd (still the best thing of his i've ever heard), or some of the other descriptions of his music i've read. but i don't hear it. i mostly hear, as teep described it, that "thinness," a signature of parkes, it seems, which is fine in and of itself but which, i think, becomes a bit...yeah, _boring_ over the course of several releases that don't stray too far from that... one more thing--the high point of _hidden camera_ is, for me as well as, it would seem, most, "kmj," the longish first track with the excellent cymbal work and trapset fills. this, in short, is why i'm drawn to photek. he may only hit it once every couple of tracks, but when he's on...shit, he's _fuck off_ on.

quoted 4 lines Last, I find it quite amusing that people would go to great extent nit-

>Last, I find it quite amusing that people would go to great extent nit- >picking T.J.'s work in the same breath as a big thumbs up for this >hidden camera 2x12" of which I can only find 1 track which _really_ hits >the spot.

yeah, well, one's perhaps not so critical of the fine-but-plain, perhaps more subtle dress of the peasant when there's a naked would-be king bellowing from the catwalk... sc

I'd like to nominate Sean Cooper as official IDM thread ender. Bravo! Dazzling even! The only point I disagree with (and we can leave this off to differences in taste) is the calling of the squarepush sound as "noodly". Hyperventilated yes....but the taste of those noodles satisfy a craving I've had ever since RDJ started playing the tin flute for kicks. Teep<--also not so impressed by the T-Powah

Hi, I have Hidden Camera, The one on opt-Art, 7th Samarai, and Ufos. Can anyone recommend any of his earlier works? I don't have a discography, so I don't know which ones to look for. Thanks

quoted 3 lines Hi, I have Hidden Camera, The one on opt-Art, 7th Samarai, and Ufos. Can

>Hi, I have Hidden Camera, The one on opt-Art, 7th Samarai, and Ufos. Can >anyone recommend any of his earlier works? I don't have a discography, so >I don't know which ones to look for. Thanks

Try the Form and Function (Vol. I and Vol II) 12"s on his PTK imprint (Cat no's PTK 1 & PTK 2), those are my faves aside from the ones mentioned above. There are two more PTK's, 3 & 4, errm... The Physical (which is pretty good) and The Water Margin (which has too many vocals for my taste). There is the release on Metalheads also which is pretty neat, esp. the track "Into the 90's". He has remixed a couple of things on Metalheads, "Still Life" is one, I think. He also has a couple things out as Sentinel. All this stuff should be relatively easy to find.

In a message dated 19/08/96 09:52:11, you write:

quoted 2 lines Ok, there's this grey-black 12" with japanese lettering on it and other

>Ok, there's this grey-black 12" with japanese lettering on it and other >written stuff exept for a little "c&p photek"... what's that?

This release is PHOTEK 5 - titled - Seven Samurai s.m.@4th world records uk http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/4thworld

Ok, there's this grey-black 12" with japanese lettering on it and other written stuff exept for a little "c&p photek"... what's that? thnx,snow.

On Mon, 19 Aug 1996, Eylon Israeli wrote:

quoted 2 lines Ok, there's this grey-black 12" with japanese lettering on it and other

> Ok, there's this grey-black 12" with japanese lettering on it and other > written stuff exept for a little "c&p photek"... what's that?

It sounds like the 7th Samauri ep, it's the BOMB! B i l l S a m u e l s w l s @ U . A r i z o n a . E D U

On Mon, 19 Aug 1996, William L Samuels wrote:

quoted 6 lines On Mon, 19 Aug 1996, Eylon Israeli wrote:

> On Mon, 19 Aug 1996, Eylon Israeli wrote: > > > Ok, there's this grey-black 12" with japanese lettering on it and other > > written stuff exept for a little "c&p photek"... what's that? > > It sounds like the 7th Samauri ep, it's the BOMB!

Thanks. Out of curiousity, How does one know this is "7th samurai" when nothing is written onit whatsoever? snow.

Hi! Anyone have phone/fax of the photek('s) label? regards, (the) Snow.

Hi, At 6:39 9/12/96, Eylon Israeli wrote:

quoted 1 line Anyone have phone/fax of the photek('s) label?

> Anyone have phone/fax of the photek('s) label?

Photek has only mobile at 0836692088 He looks like an original ninja style. It goes without saying that very very busy_man! ps Photek will be playing DJ sets for Ambinet@Web (Tokyo) on Fri.4th.Oct: together with K.Degiorgio (As One).

quoted 5 lines regards,

> regards, > > (the) > > Snow.

,groet - Dj yak!?

> In my opinion, Photek leads the pack as far as drum-n-bass goes. Ni Ten

quoted 6 lines Ichi Ryu is probably the most minimal, stripped-down stuff I've heard of

> Ichi Ryu is probably the most minimal, stripped-down stuff I've heard of > his, but I don't have that much of his material. If you're looking for > info, the label he released Ni Ten... on is Science, which has been picked > up for distribution by Astralwerks/Caroline (in the US, at least). Other > stuff of his to look out for it the Hidden Camera EP, and the Natural Born > Killas EP on Metalheadz.

Um...i've heard the track Hidden Camera, and was extremely impressed...is this a good representation of Photek? Their track from Logical Progression wasn't quite as interesting...which of the two is more indicative of their style? Ali "It means we'll manage I'll master your language And in the meantime I'll create my own" (Tricky)

I saw Photek's Ni Ten Ichi Ryu (Two Swords Technique) on MTV's Chill Out Zone last Saturday night. Gosh. I am impressed. Is all of Photek's songs like this one? Are there any more d'n'b artists that are similar in sound and style to that song? How do I get the disc? (I think I need the name of the record company.) / Mattias -- Mattias Svanstrom | Email: mattias@isy.liu.se Division of Data Transmission | Phone: (+46) 13 28 1350 Department of Electrical Engineering | Fax: (+46) 13 28 1339 Linkoping University, Sweden |

quoted 2 lines I saw Photek's Ni Ten Ichi Ryu (Two Swords Technique) on MTV's Chill

> I saw Photek's Ni Ten Ichi Ryu (Two Swords Technique) on MTV's Chill > Out Zone last Saturday night.

Fun video, isn't it? It could have used some more character development, but a good first try at a visual representation of his music.

quoted 4 lines I am impressed. Is all of Photek's songs like this one? Are there

> I am impressed. Is all of Photek's songs like this one? Are there > any more d'n'b artists that are similar in sound and style to that > song? How do I get the disc? (I think I need the name of the record > company.)

In my opinion, Photek leads the pack as far as drum-n-bass goes. Ni Ten Ichi Ryu is probably the most minimal, stripped-down stuff I've heard of his, but I don't have that much of his material. If you're looking for info, the label he released Ni Ten... on is Science, which has been picked up for distribution by Astralwerks/Caroline (in the US, at least). Other stuff of his to look out for it the Hidden Camera EP, and the Natural Born Killas EP on Metalheadz. It was mentioned here a couple days ago that the Ni Ten.../Hidden Camera EPs were going to be re-released as a set by Astralwerks, so you may want to wait... Hope this helps, bill / dj marathon -- f u t u r e listening radio show - hosted by dj marathon t h u r s d a y 10pm-1am o n wmtu 91.9 fm e l e c t r o n i c m u s i c * w i t h * s o u l http://www.hu.mtu.edu/~wdvanloo/personal/

On Thu, 3 Jul 1997, William D. VanLoo wrote:

quoted 3 lines It was mentioned here a couple days ago that the Ni Ten.../Hidden Camera

> It was mentioned here a couple days ago that the Ni Ten.../Hidden Camera > EPs were going to be re-released as a set by Astralwerks, so you may want > to wait...

Yes yes... I'm surprised no one's made specific mention of KJZ on the Hidden Camera EP). I was finally able to pick it up a few months ago, and while the intricacy of the title track is most impressive, it's KJZ that blew me away (and still does). Cymbals, tons of 'em, chopped up to varying degrees, syncopated as hell with light drum-fill work in the background over a HUGE, punchy double-bass whose notes are offset by a beat so that sometimes you're not sure where the downbeat is--but not for long, and your head starts moving in earnest again. It's all glued together with space-agey synth chords, which apparently some people think are a cliche, but here they add just the right amount of spaciousness. It's the *beat*, though--its components are totally non-standard, but it gets under your skin and stays there. Well, mine, anyway-- I've never heard anything like it. Cheers! J ________ \ / | Bee women: "What kind of corn soldiers are you?" H. James Harkins | Arthur: "Umm, oh, er, we're, uh, we're colonels." jharkins@acpub.duke.edu | \/ | - from "The Tick," now on Comedy Central, 6PM M-F "If we keep our attention focused on the present, we can be sure of one thing, namely that whatever we are attending to in this moment will change..." -- Jon Kabat-Zinn

On Thu, 3 Jul 1997, H James Harkins wrote:

quoted 1 line On Thu, 3 Jul 1997, William D. VanLoo wrote:

> On Thu, 3 Jul 1997, William D. VanLoo wrote:

quoted 2 lines background over a HUGE, punchy double-bass whose notes are offset by a

> background over a HUGE, punchy double-bass whose notes are offset by a > beat so that sometimes you're not sure where the downbeat is--but not for

that's my favorite part about nearly any of photek's material...unless i've been listening from the start of a song, i can usually never figure out exactly where his downbeats are...which makes for much fun if you're trying to beatmatch to it. Rings Around Saturn/UFO is rather choppy as well, very similar to Hidden Camera, but it's the implied ufo-spotting samples that always grab me... ....... "S'il vous plait, pouvez-vouz demander a la femme de chambre d'astiquer ma poignee de porte; j'attends un visiteur tres distingue."

Speaking of which Photek was Jason Bentley's guest last night for an hour on Metropolis. I caught about 25 minutes of it at the end. A lot of praise and fawning being heaped by old jason but a couple bits did emerge. The Photek full length album is due out in september and he says he has no plans to play live unless he can think of something interesting to do. I wonder who has more money, photek or jason bentley... (wondering how he can get in on the big 'electronica' money), _____ / ,-,_) /,_) (/ RESH Live & Direct from the G-Spot, Orange County, California, USA http://www1.linkonline.net/fresh/fresh.htm

...just you wait for the full length this fall... ...it's not what you expect!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! discreetly, l.b.

Care to elaborate on what it _is_, then? Curiously, Bill / dj marathon

quoted 6 lines ...just you wait for the full length this fall...

> > ...just you wait for the full length this fall... > ...it's not what you expect!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > discreetly, > l.b. >

-- f u t u r e listening radio show - hosted by dj marathon t h u r s d a y 10pm-1am o n wmtu 91.9 fm e l e c t r o n i c m u s i c * w i t h * s o u l http://www.hu.mtu.edu/~wdvanloo/personal/

Does anyone know if there's a Photek discography anywhere? -- Ben Coffer Hybrid Productions http://www.hybridgame.demon.co.uk/

Ben Coffer wrote:

quoted 6 lines Does anyone know if there's a Photek discography anywhere?

> > Does anyone know if there's a Photek discography anywhere? > -- > Ben Coffer > Hybrid Productions > http://www.hybridgame.demon.co.uk/

try http://www.caroline.com/astralwerks/disco.html -- temper's Tantrum http://www.magicnet.net/~revolut electronicmusiccultureinformation

On Thu, 3 Jul 1997, -sirk- wrote:

quoted 6 lines Ben Coffer wrote:

> Ben Coffer wrote: > > > > Does anyone know if there's a Photek discography anywhere? > > try > http://www.caroline.com/astralwerks/disco.html

Tougher question: does anyone know if there's a Rupert Parkes discography (in other words, Photek, Studio Pressure, Aquarius, etc)? I spent some time looking for one last weekend without finding one... Che

In message <Pine.BSD.3.91.970703203645.10057B- 100000@beacon.synthcom.com>, Che <zeus8@synthcom.com> writes

quoted 13 lines On Thu, 3 Jul 1997, -sirk- wrote:

>On Thu, 3 Jul 1997, -sirk- wrote: > >> Ben Coffer wrote: >> > >> > Does anyone know if there's a Photek discography anywhere? >> >> try >> http://www.caroline.com/astralwerks/disco.html > >Tougher question: does anyone know if there's a Rupert Parkes discography >(in other words, Photek, Studio Pressure, Aquarius, etc)? I spent some >time looking for one last weekend without finding one... >

Annoying isn't it....thats the reason I was looking....coz there used to be a rupert parkes discography linked to from my Gateway to Discographies page....but that link is non-functional now...so i'm looking for another....thanks sirk anyway for the info. -- Ben Coffer Hybrid Productions http://www.hybridgame.demon.co.uk/

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quoted 1 line tougher question: does anyone know if there's a Rupert Parkes discography

>tougher question: does anyone know if there's a Rupert Parkes discography

I believe http://grove.ufl.edu/~gregas/rp.html Sam

At 12:27 PM 7/4/97 -0400, KaisrSolze@aol.com wrote:

quoted 4 lines tougher question: does anyone know if there's a Rupert Parkes discography

>>tougher question: does anyone know if there's a Rupert Parkes discography > >I believe >http://grove.ufl.edu/~gregas/rp.html

Dammit Beavis! That Url doesn't work anymore - no one even close to that name at that school. Did anyone happen to make a copy? Forward it to us, please will you? (Dig the illin' Gollem syntax) Speaking of Photek, does anyone have a copy of The Physical (Photek PTK03) they wanna sell? I pay, I pay you good money. Che

quoted 2 lines Did anyone happen to make a copy? Forward it to us, please will you? (Dig

>Did anyone happen to make a copy? Forward it to us, please will you? (Dig >the illin' Gollem syntax)

Here's an incomplete draft copy that I saved from February. I think it was posted on breaks. It doesn't have everything but it might help. T W E L V E I N C H E P s Aquarius [year], Good Looking (UK) GLR 009 12" Dolphin Tune / Aquatic Aquarius [year], Looking Good (UK) LGR 002 12" Drifting to the Centre / Wave Form Code of Practice [year], Certificate 18 (UK) CERT18 05 12" Infiltrate / Can We Change the Future? (Dub Plate Mix) Code of Practice Can We Change the Future? (Remix) [year], Certificate 18 (UK) CERT18 13 12" Can We Change the Future? (Sounds of Life Remix) Can We Change the Future? (Klute Remix) Phaze 1 [year], Odysee (UK) ODY 02 12" Phaze 1 / Try a Style Phaze 1 [year], Timeless Recordings (UK) DJ 011 12" (A-side) Natural Photek Natural Born Killa’ EP [year], Metalheadz (UK) MET 008 12" The Rain / Into the 90’s / Consciousness Photek The Hidden Camera EP 1996, Virgin/Science (UK) QED DT1 / QED CD1 2x12" / CD K.J.Z. / The Hidden Camera / The Hidden Camera (Static Mix) / Hybrid Photek 1996, Op-Art (UK) OP 1 12" T-Raenon / Kanei Photek 1996, Astralwerks (US) ASW 6182 12" The Third Sequence / Titan * limited to 1000 copies Photek Still Life / The Rain (Remix) 1996, Razor’s Edge (UK) RE 001 12" (B-side) The Rain (Photek Remix) Sentinel [year], Basement (UK) BRSS 40 12" Heavy Vibes / Pulse of Life Sentinel [year], Basement (UK) BRSS 49 12" Awakening / Genesis Sentinel 1996, Basement (UK) BRSS 56 12" Dig Deeper / Toulépleu Studio Pressure Form & Function Vol. I [year], Photek (UK) PHK 01 12" Resolution / The First Sequence Studio Pressure Form & Function Vol. II [year], Photek (UK) PHK 02 12" Book of Changes / The Lightening Studio Pressure [date], Photek (UK) PHK 03 12" The Physical / Touching Down...Planet Photek Studio Pressure 1995, Photek (UK) PHK 04 12" The Water Margin / Fusion Studio Pressure The Seven Samurai [year], Photek (UK) PHK 05 12" The Seven Samurai / [flip side cut?] Studio Pressure 1996, Photek (UK) PHK 06 12" UFO / Rings Around Saturn Studio Pressure [year], Certificate 18 (UK) CERT18 08 12" Relics / Presha III Studio Pressure Relics (Remix) 1996, Certificate 18 (UK) CERT18 17 12" Relics (Plaid Mix) / Relics (Natural Mystic Mix) C O M P I L A T I O N S 100% Drum & Bass 1996, Telstar (UK) TCD 2847 2CD (LP?) Photek - Rings Around Saturn LTJ Bukem Presents: Logical Progression 1996, London (UK) / FFRR (US) 8287391 / 697-124 106-2 3xLP / 2CD Aquarius (& Tayla) - Bringing Me Down Photek - Pharaoh LTJ Bukem Presents: Logical Progression 1996, London (UK) 8287392 CD(1) Aquarius (& Tayla) - Bringing Me Down LTJ Bukem Presents: Logical Progression 1996, London (UK) 8287472 CD(2) Photek - Pharaoh * limited edition Platinum Breakz 1996, Metalheadz (UK) 1996, FFRR (US) [cat. numbers] 2CD / 3xLP Photek - Consciousness Wipeout 2097 1996, Astralwerks (US) ASW 6189 CD Photek - The Third Sequence Photek - Titan Wire Magazine Virgin Sampler 1996, Virgin/Science (UK) WIRE CDJ 96 CD Photek - K.J.Z. Objects D’Art 3 1997, New Electronica (UK) [cat. number] CD Photek - [T-Raenon? or Kanei?] R E M I X E S Goldie Still Life (Remix) / The Rain (Remix) 1996, Razor’s Edge (UK) RE 001 12" (A-side) Still Life (Photek Remix) Goldie Inner City Life - The Remixes 1996, FFRR (US) 697-120 096-2 12" / CD Inner City Life (Baby Boys Edit) / Inner City Life (Baby Boys Remix) * remixed by Photek & Goldie Everything But the Girl Single 1996, Virgin (UK) VST1600 / VSCD1600 / VSC1600 12" / CD / CS Single (Photek Mix) Everything But the Girl EBTG vs. Drum ‘n’ Bass 1996, Atlantic (US) [cat. number] CD / 12"(?) Single (Photek Remix)

Che wrote:

quoted 7 lines tougher question: does anyone know if there's a Rupert Parkes discography

>>>tougher question: does anyone know if there's a Rupert Parkes discography >> >>I believe >>http://grove.ufl.edu/~gregas/rp.html > >Dammit Beavis! That Url doesn't work anymore - no one even close to that >name at that school.

Aaron S. Gregory's (gregas@che.ufl.edu) PHOTEK (aka Rupert Parkes) site is currently down because he's switching servers. he's out of town until the middle of July. contact him then. enjoi...jeff +_______________________________________________________- (Webadelica?) The unofficial primal scream website. http://www.dreamspace.com/astron/primalscream/index.html

FYI Photek is scheduled to re-release his Hidden Camera and Ni Ten Ichi Ryu singles in one package called "Risk vs. Reward. CD only. Release date is July 22, 97. Just in case you didn't pick these up already. Synaptic Records (Rick and Ben) 608 S. Broadway Denver, CO 80209 (303) 722-9428 (phone) (303) 722-9540 (fax) synaptic@eazy.net www.eazy.net/synaptic-records/

Just getting turned onto Photek... Now I want to know more - who is Photek, etc. Is there a homepage?

curt@usinter.net wrote:

quoted 1 line Is there a homepage?

>Is there a homepage?

oh jeez....here we go again. d'oh! Aaron........

if there is no photek page i have space for one if anyone is interested e-mail me with details and i will put it up <smaller> <center>minimo <underline><color><param>0000,0000,ffff</param>http://www.iinet.net.au/~drex </color></underline> do as thou wilt</center></smaller>

Just come into possession of Public Energy No. 1. Wonderful stuff. Very, very much like Chiastic Slide but with more in the way of ambient bits, which are quite a bit darker than they were on G Spot. Pretty bit change of direction. Also heard the latest Photek single (forget the title, Japanese sounding one which was the Two Swords mix or something) the other day. This is the sort of direction I wished Tom Jenkinson had followed. Heard Hard Normal Daddy and the jazz doesn't turn me on at all. Is Photek's other stuff along similar lines and does he have any albums out worth investigating? I've heard of the Hidden Camera ep but was wondering if there's going to be a full length in the near future. Tim Those who set out to serve both God and Mammon soon find there is no God.

quoted 4 lines Is Photek's other stuff

> Is Photek's other stuff > along similar lines and does he have any albums out worth investigating? > I've heard of the Hidden Camera ep but was wondering if there's going to > be a full length in the near future.

Check your record shops soon. US release date is 9. Sep. Tower is supposed to have a copy of the full-length _Modus Operandi_ CD on hold for me. As for his other material, it becomes a bit of an expensive proposition at $10 per 12" -- IF you can find them. Can't go too far wrong, though. I also found a Sentinel 12" (same guy) which was diva-oriented drum'n'bass that didn't do much for me. The PTK ("Photek") EPs under the name Studio Pressure are worth the trouble and expense. Also look into Source Direct, particularly "2 Masks" / "Black Domina" -- especially since you like the last Photek single so much. Those records have much in common. I have an extra 12" for trade, incidentally... --Mark

Hi. This is my first contact... Don't know much about idm, but I like the Photek stuff very much.

quoted 4 lines Daddy and the jazz doesn't turn me on at all. Is Photek's other stuff

>Daddy and the jazz doesn't turn me on at all. Is Photek's other stuff >along similar lines and does he have any albums out worth investigating? >I've heard of the Hidden Camera ep but was wondering if there's going to >be a full length in the near future.

There's a full length album ('modus operandi') coming out next week.. I'd like to hear suggestions about 'what should I listen to if I like Photek'? Bi Robert * information is not knowledge knowledge is not wisdom wisdom is not truth truth is not beauty beauty is not love love is not music music is the best * *frank vincent zappa*

quoted 1 line There's a full length album ('modus operandi') coming out next week..

>There's a full length album ('modus operandi') coming out next week..

It's out now, but Caroline's dropped the ball on distribution. If you call around to a bunch of shops you should be able to find a copy. If you like "The Hidden Camera" and "Ni-Ten-Ichi-Ryu" this record is essential.

quoted 1 line I'd like to hear suggestions about 'what should I listen to if I like Photek

>I'd like to hear suggestions about 'what should I listen to if I like Photek'?

Source Direct comes to mind immediately - there's a singles collection (not unlike Photek's 'Risc vs Reward') called 'Controlled Developments' coming out on Astralwerks before the end of the year. C. -- Chris.Hilker (cspot@hyperreal.org) "One being, that talking about things, while not exactly causing them to happen, does cause something,-- which is almost the same, tho' not quite. Unless it is possible to smoke a Potatoe."

CODE OF PRACTICE is another moniker of PHOTEK on the Certificate 18 label... not sure it's STUDIO PRESSURE. (could be both... just picked up a great S.P. single with PLAID remix;) In a message dated 9/10/97 12:11:46 AM, mkolmar@xnet.com wrote:

quoted 13 lines Check your record shops soon. US release date is 9. Sep. Tower is

>Check your record shops soon. US release date is 9. Sep. Tower is >supposed to have a copy of the full-length _Modus Operandi_ CD on hold for >me. > >As for his other material, it becomes a bit of an expensive proposition at >$10 per 12" -- IF you can find them. Can't go too far wrong, though. I >also found a Sentinel 12" (same guy) which was diva-oriented drum'n'bass >that didn't do much for me. The PTK ("Photek") EPs under the name Studio >Pressure are worth the trouble and expense. > >Also look into Source Direct, particularly "2 Masks" / "Black Domina" -- >especially since you like the last Photek single so much. Those records >have much in common. I have an extra 12" for trade, incidentally...

There is a new photek 12" comming out under the Special forces alias on his Photek Productions Label. Supposedly this 12" is comming out in October, but knowing Photek productions that means next year.... I cant read the name of it on my copy as the handwriting is to bad; it looks like 'Something ????'. The photek productions web site is still under construction, and still says estimated completion date is the 31st January 1999.... hum... it said that in november last year.... What I want to know is; will the Photek track 'Nation',heavely hammered by Grooverider, and reported to be comming out on Prototype about 3/4 years ago, ever see the light of day.... This is the amen tune to end all amen tunes... Dan.

Hi, On Fri, 20 Aug 1999 daniell@demon.net wrote:

quoted 4 lines There is a new photek 12" comming out under the Special forces alias on his

> There is a new photek 12" comming out under the Special forces alias on his > Photek Productions Label. Supposedly this 12" is comming out in October, but > knowing Photek productions that means next year.... I cant read the name of > it on my copy as the handwriting is to bad; it looks like 'Something ????'.

You're not talking about 'Special Forces / Propaganda', right ? Something new would be great ...

quoted 3 lines The photek productions web site is still under construction, and still says

> The photek productions web site is still under construction, and still says > estimated completion date is the 31st January 1999.... hum... it said that > in november last year....

What's the URL ?

quoted 4 lines What I want to know is; will the Photek track 'Nation',heavely hammered by

> What I want to know is; will the Photek track 'Nation',heavely hammered by > Grooverider, and reported to be comming out on Prototype about 3/4 years > ago, ever see the light of day.... This is the amen tune to end all amen > tunes...

I guess you should know how it works: - producer makes a track + sends dats/dubs to selectec djs - the djs play the track for about a year or so - the djs stop playing the track ('cause there's something new) - everybody except for the die hard fans forget that track ever existed - when the sound changed to something new somebody remembers that there was that track they really should put out before it's far to late ... - ... :-) Bye Sebastian -- Sebastian Herrfurth (seher@cs.tu-berlin.de) pages for Bernd Friedmann / Riz Maslen / Daniel Myer / Pole / Jazzanova/SK at http://user.cs.tu-berlin.de/~seher/music.html

Sebastian Herrfurth wrote:

quoted 15 lines On Fri, 20 Aug 1999 daniell@demon.net wrote:

> On Fri, 20 Aug 1999 daniell@demon.net wrote: > > > There is a new photek 12" comming out under the Special forces alias on his > > Photek Productions Label. Supposedly this 12" is comming out in October, but > > knowing Photek productions that means next year.... I cant read the name of > > it on my copy as the handwriting is to bad; it looks like 'Something ????'. > > You're not talking about 'Special Forces / Propaganda', right ? > Something new would be great ... > > > The photek productions web site is still under construction, and still says > > estimated completion date is the 31st January 1999.... hum... it said that > > in november last year.... > > What's the URL ?

Presha from NZ posted this link to their site which has a ton of info (including track listings) for the upcoming matrix, bad co, dread, infra red and photek LP. http://www.subtronix.co.nz/ Here's the bit on photek:

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Look out for many forthcoming Photek releases, the first of which will be the instantly memorable 'Something Else' aka 'The Bleep Tune', aka 'Blade'. Strangely enough, with this release still at least a month away, the remix has already begun to circulate on Dub. 'Something Else' will be the first 12" from the forthcoming Photek Productions album 'Sub Zero'. Here is the full track listing for the album. 4xLP: 1) Something Else SPECIAL FORCES (PHOTEK RMX) 2) Worldwide PESHAY 3) Decoy DIGITAL 4) Prologue SPIRIT 5) Tex DIGITAL 6) Tuesday SPECIAL FORCES 7) Vision DIGITAL & SPIRIT 8) Freeway SPECIAL FORCES CD: 12” version of ‘Bleep Tune’ replaces Photek remix and adds; Propaganda PHANTOM REMIX Special Forces SPECIAL FORCES

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All I know is the first Special Forces single was wicked...

quoted 12 lines What I want to know is; will the Photek track 'Nation',heavely hammered by

> > What I want to know is; will the Photek track 'Nation',heavely hammered by > > Grooverider, and reported to be comming out on Prototype about 3/4 years > > ago, ever see the light of day.... This is the amen tune to end all amen > > tunes... > > I guess you should know how it works: > - producer makes a track + sends dats/dubs to selectec djs > - the djs play the track for about a year or so > - the djs stop playing the track ('cause there's something new) > - everybody except for the die hard fans forget that track ever existed > - when the sound changed to something new somebody remembers that there > was that track they really should put out before it's far to late ...

Actually the scoop with 'One Nation' was groove was ready to go with it and even allotted a catalog number, PRO006. When it came time to master it, the dat came up missing and that's all she wrote. I read in a interview that he said if Rupert wanted to redo it, prototype would still put it out. You wouldn't believe how many great tracks will never see proper release because of the master being given out to cut plates and it disappearing. :-( brockout.

quoted 5 lines There is a new photek 12" comming

>>There is a new photek 12" comming >>out under the Special forces >You're not talking about 'Special Forces >/ Propaganda', right ? Something new would > be great ...

No this is a new 12"..the Propaganda 12" came out a good while ago... probably late 98/early 99, this is fresh Photek material. Although similar in sound to Propaganda....

quoted 3 lines The photek productions web site is

>>The photek productions web site is >>still under construction >What's the URL ?

www.photekproductions.com Dan.