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2000-03-07 21:35richard (idm) RE: Should musician's make money off of music, wrong question
└─ 2000-03-07 22:13daniel (idm) label myths (was Re: (idm) RE: Should musician's make money off of music, wrong question)
2000-03-26 07:47cristian fleming Re: (idm) label myths (was Re: (idm) RE: Should musician's make money off of music, wrong question)
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2000-03-07 21:35richardThe answer is YES, but that's the wrong question! Musicians work hard to create the music
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The answer is YES, but that's the wrong question! Musicians work hard to create the music and they need to eat too. Music gear is expensive. Should you get paid for your job? The real question is should record labels make sooo much more money off of music than the people actually creating it? Should distributors be allowed to make 50-60% on each CD? A musician doesn't really make anything off music unless: a. they are hugely popular b. they own their own record label c. they perform live ALOT. The cost breakdown of a typical CD is something like this: Musician = .25-.50 per CD Label = $7.50 per CD Distributor = $7-$10 per CD Everyone needs to support musicians or there won't be any. Music needs to be patronized. It must be. However, the business that has developed around music needs to drastically changed in favor of the artist. If you pirate music and really like it and enjoy it, then find some karmic way to help the artist out. There are ways to help them other than to spend money. Promote them to your friends, promote them on the Net. Help the artist reach a greater number of people. This is ultimately more helpful then the $.25 they loose on a CD sale. If the artist is on mp3.com like myself, then download their music often, they get paid per download. I love that idea. You get free music, the artist gets money. Kudos to mp3.com for payback program. While we are on that subject. How about supporting me and download some of my tracks for free! If you do I will keep making more. :-) http://www.mp3.com/mysticalsun peace -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- m y s t i c a l s u n http://www.mysticalsun.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2000-03-07 22:13danielOn Tue, 7 Mar 2000, richard wrote: > The answer is YES, but that's the wrong question! Mus
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(idm) label myths (was Re: (idm) RE: Should musician's make money off of music, wrong question)
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On Tue, 7 Mar 2000, richard wrote:
quoted 8 lines The answer is YES, but that's the wrong question! Musicians work hard to> The answer is YES, but that's the wrong question! Musicians work hard to > create the music and they need to eat too. Music gear is expensive. > Should you get paid for your job? > > The real question is should record labels make sooo much more money off of > music than the people actually creating it? > >
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quoted 6 lines The cost breakdown of a typical CD is something like this:> The cost breakdown of a typical CD is something like this: > > Musician = .25-.50 per CD > Label = $7.50 per CD > Distributor = $7-$10 per CD >
I promised myself I would not contribute to this thread but because of the above I have to. Do not believe for a moment that small labels make the above. I wish I made 7.50 a CD. The sad fact is that I am lucky if we get back our original investment. small labels are labors of love. The people that distribute us do not make that kind of money either. btw, by your figures where does a store fit in? -daniel --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2000-03-26 07:47cristian fleming> On Tue, 7 Mar 2000, richard wrote: > > > The answer is YES, but that's the wrong questio
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Re: (idm) label myths (was Re: (idm) RE: Should musician's make money off of music, wrong question)
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quoted 20 lines On Tue, 7 Mar 2000, richard wrote:> On Tue, 7 Mar 2000, richard wrote: > > > The answer is YES, but that's the wrong question! Musicians work > hard to > > create the music and they need to eat too. Music gear is expensive. > > > Should you get paid for your job? > > > > The real question is should record labels make sooo much more money > off of > > music than the people actually creating it? > > > > > <snip> > > The cost breakdown of a typical CD is something like this: > > > > Musician = .25-.50 per CD > > Label = $7.50 per CD > > Distributor = $7-$10 per CD > >
actually by the way gang. an artist gets paid jack shit but its not usually quite as bad as the above..unless youve been royally fucked on your royalties. the average full length cd is roughly 15.99 (in most stores..of course it wavers here and there but for arguments sake lets say that this is the cost). the average royalty rate..even for someone freshly signed, is 12% at least...unless you get screwed...then maybe its less. that comes out to roughly $1.91 a cd. not .25 . vinyl im not so familiar with, however i know that in some cases..labels do a 50/50 split with the artist. in addition to that...although the field of publishing is a foggy mystery to me at best, i believe some countries pay publishing on every record sold. this may be totally wrong though so dont quote me on it.. as i said, publishing is a complete mystery to me and if theres anyone out there that really understands that shit then please enlighten me further. the bulk of the money goes to the distributors..they are the pigs usually..especially if they are even moderately big. everyone else gets a sizeably smaller chunk. eat your friends. chuck wagon --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org