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Wayne writes:

quoted 1 line has anyone heard the new mouse on mars..instrumentals record?

>> has anyone heard the new mouse on mars..instrumentals record?

quoted 1 line if you're talking about AUTODITACKER,

>if you're talking about AUTODITACKER,

I don't think he is... There's is anothe record floating around called Instrumentals, but I have no more of a clue as to what it contains than him. Equally though, I'd appreciate info and opinions on the Twist single, another oddity, and the MoM/Stereolab 12". Could agree more with John's (snipped) comments about AUTODITACKER - it is excellent, although maybe not better than any of their last 2 LPs which are equally great. If it hasn't been mentioned yet, Microstoria is Marcus Popp of Oval and Andi Toma from Mouse on Mars, is it not? I think they've had two LPs out (Init Ding and something else). BTW, is Oval's Systemish LP still available? I have 94Diskont, but I seem to remember that tracks I heard off Systemish on John Peels show ages ago were much better. I love the 4 shorter tracks on Diskont - are these more like the Systemish stuff or not? Gb.

M.A.J. Huffman wrote:

quoted 12 lines Wayne writes:

> > >Wayne writes: > >>> has anyone heard the new mouse on mars..instrumentals record? > > > >>if you're talking about AUTODITACKER, > > > >I don't think he is... There's is anothe record floating around called > >Instrumentals, but I have no more of a clue as to what it contains than > >him. Equally though, I'd appreciate info and opinions on the Twist > >single, another oddity, and the MoM/Stereolab 12". > > > The Cache Coeur Naif single is very fine indeed.

I have this one. I'm talking about the new single, "Twist". I think it's supposed to be out in November, but I've seen it advertised and mentioned, and just wondered if it was out and what it had on it. It is pretty odd for them to release a single that does comprise of a track from the LP (remixed, or whatever).

quoted 6 lines BTW, is Oval's Systemish LP still available? I have 94Diskont, but I

> >BTW, is Oval's Systemish LP still available? I have 94Diskont, but I > >seem to remember that tracks I heard off Systemish on John Peels show > >ages ago were much better. I love the 4 shorter tracks on Diskont - are > >these more like the Systemish stuff or not? > > Weren't they both reissued fairly recently?

Was this just on CD or vinyl aswell. I prefer vinyl... Cheers, Gb.

On Tue, 14 Oct 1997, lwtcdi wrote:

quoted 32 lines M.A.J. Huffman wrote:

> M.A.J. Huffman wrote: > > > > >Wayne writes: > > >>> has anyone heard the new mouse on mars..instrumentals record? > > > > > >>if you're talking about AUTODITACKER, > > > > > >I don't think he is... There's is anothe record floating around called > > >Instrumentals, but I have no more of a clue as to what it contains than > > >him. Equally though, I'd appreciate info and opinions on the Twist > > >single, another oddity, and the MoM/Stereolab 12". > > > > > The Cache Coeur Naif single is very fine indeed. > > I have this one. I'm talking about the new single, "Twist". I think it's > supposed to be out in November, but I've seen it advertised and > mentioned, and just wondered if it was out and what it had on it. It is > pretty odd for them to release a single that does comprise of a track > from the LP (remixed, or whatever). > > > >BTW, is Oval's Systemish LP still available? I have 94Diskont, but I > > >seem to remember that tracks I heard off Systemish on John Peels show > > >ages ago were much better. I love the 4 shorter tracks on Diskont - are > > >these more like the Systemish stuff or not? > > > > Weren't they both reissued fairly recently? > > Was this just on CD or vinyl aswell. I prefer vinyl... > > Cheers, > > Gb.

i believe that both systemisch and diskont are still available on BOTH cd and vinyl. also, someone mentioned their music-making technique and i was wondering whether they make their own music and then burn it onto cd's and THEN screw with the cd's or do they do it to other artists' cd's? there's a track on systemisch that sounds ALOT like something from SAW II (i can't remember which one)--anyone know? -marc-

quoted 8 lines also, someone mentioned their music-making technique and i was

> also, someone mentioned their music-making technique and i was > wondering > whether they make their own music and then burn it onto cd's and THEN > screw with the cd's or do they do it to other artists' cd's? there's > a > track on systemisch that sounds ALOT like something from SAW II (i > can't > remember which one)--anyone know?

hard to tell for sure. i was curious so i took 3 of the crappiest cds i could find and drew on the bottom with a black permanent marker.first cd- the player played it normally like there was nothing wrong. second cd- wouldnt play at all third cd- sounded pretty cool, there was no way to tell what the original was(thankfully) and the pattern of clicks/bleeps did not repeat. also, it sounded different on 3 different cd players. not as elegant as oval, but still fun. cl

On 15 Oct 97, cl wrote: Re: (idm) Mouse On Mars/Oval:

quoted 3 lines hard to tell for sure. i was curious so i took 3 of the crappiest

> hard to tell for sure. i was curious so i took 3 of the crappiest > cds i could find and drew on the bottom with a black permanent > marker. [...] repeat. also, it sounded different on 3 different cd players. not as

THANKS for doing this experiment : one which I've certainly been curious about but not brave enough to f* up CD's for :-) It is intriguing that 3 different machines gave you different playbacks... typical! I *

lwtcdi <graham@lwtcdi.prestel.co.uk> wrote:

quoted 2 lines If it hasn't been mentioned yet, Microstoria is Marcus Popp of Oval and

>If it hasn't been mentioned yet, Microstoria is Marcus Popp of Oval and >Andi Toma from Mouse on Mars, is it not?

Microstoria is actually Markus Popp of Oval and Jan St. Werner of MoM, not Andi Toma.

quoted 1 line I think they've had two LPs out (Init Ding and something else).

>I think they've had two LPs out (Init Ding and something else).

Microstoria have three records out: Init Ding (1995) Mille Plateaux/Thrill Jockey _Snd (1996) Mille Plateaux/Thrill Jockey Reprovisers (1997) Mille Plateaux/Thrill Jockey The most recent is remixes of "_Snd" by everyone from Ui to Oval to Violent Onsen Geisha.

quoted 1 line BTW, is Oval's Systemish LP still available?

>BTW, is Oval's Systemish LP still available?

Should be ... 2LP on both Thrill Jockey and Mille Plateaux. Definitely easy to find in the US on TJ. Don't know about the availability of the Mille version though ... "M. NICELY" <mnicely@NMSU.Edu> then wrote:

quoted 2 lines i believe that both systemisch and diskont are still available

>i believe that both systemisch and diskont are still available >on BOTH cd and vinyl.

The original CD version of "94 Diskont" on Mille should still be around, but it's vinyl couterpart, which included a second LP of "Do While" remixes, has become very hard to come by, and may (?) be o/p. Luckily, when Thrill Jockey reissued "94 Diskont", they made the vinyl a 2LP set with the remixes. Also, as a bonus, the TJ CD version comes with two extra, previously unreleased tracks ("Commerce Server" & "Shop In Store"). Both have slightly different artwork than the Mille versions.

quoted 3 lines also, someone mentioned their music-making technique and i was wondering

>also, someone mentioned their music-making technique and i was wondering >whether they make their own music and then burn it onto cd's and THEN >screw with the cd's or do they do it to other artists' cd's?

AFAIK, from what I've read (an interview or two w/ Popp - hard to get anything understandable out of the man), Oval do use/have used other artists CDs in their work, but since they screw with the discs so much, it's extremely hard to tell in the end.

quoted 2 lines there's a track on systemisch that sounds ALOT like something from

>there's a track on systemisch that sounds ALOT like something from >SAW II (i can't remember which one)--anyone know?

I'm positive I've heard someone else say the same thing, but as I don't listen to Aphex Twin, I wouldn't know. -Patrick np: Terry Riley - "In C" nnp: Final - "The First Millionth Of A Second"

KaisrSolze@aol.com wrote:

quoted 4 lines A few years ago, I kept hearing about plans for Oval to release a computer

>A few years ago, I kept hearing about plans for Oval to release a computer >program to "make themselves obsolete"-basically, a DYI Oval program. I was >under the impression that they had finished it. Maybe they decided not to >release it?

Yes, I thought it had been finished last year. Earlier this year I heard that a CD-Rom disc of material was scheduled to appear, and I assumed that might be this "DIY Oval" thing ... never saw any mention of it after that. Now all I know is that Oval & Christoph Charles have a spilt release (not sure if it's a collaboration at all) scheduled to come out on Thrill Jockey (and I would assume Mille Plateaux in Europe) in January of 1998. Maybe this is finally it? -Patrick np: Terry Riley - "In C" nnp: Final - "The First Millionth Of A Second"