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1997-10-14 08:27Simon Walley>From: Joe Rice <ambient@netcom.com> >Subject: Re: (idm) IDM suggestions > >At 4:16 AM -00

From:: Simon Walley <simonw@sol.ftp.com>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 09:27:58 +0100
Subject:: (idm) Re: idm V1 #1298

quoted 9 lines From: Joe Rice <ambient@netcom.com>

>From: Joe Rice <ambient@netcom.com> >Subject: Re: (idm) IDM suggestions > >At 4:16 AM -0000 10/13/97, A. Mukerjee wrote: > >>For someone like me that likes intelligent music that Retains harmony and >>alot of synth pads, what would you all recommend? > >Rei Harakami on Sublime comes to mind as well.

Oooh yes. I got that six-track EP a while back and it's extremely good. Slow, analogue percussion (blip, ping, tssh) and gorgeous warm bass'n'chord combos. Like Morgan Geist crossed with Austin Bascom. Thumbs up.

quoted 12 lines From: siliconvortex <artist@sub-con-geo.demon.co.uk>

>From: siliconvortex <artist@sub-con-geo.demon.co.uk> >Subject: Re: (idm) IDM suggestions > >>For someone like me that likes intelligent music that Retains harmony and >>alot of synth pads, what would you all recommend? > >likemind records was made for you.... > >only 4 releases.. but most people on the list will tell you they are some >of the most important modern techno releases ever made. it is home to some >of the best work by stasis, as one and the black dog (under the name of >tura),

Well, Plaid.

quoted 3 lines not to mention the label owner nuron, who, to my knowledge, has never

>not to mention the label owner nuron, who, to my knowledge, has never >released on any other label but manages to outclass the others with his >incredible tracks on these eps.

All the Likemind stuff is pretty amazing - very much in the UK listening take on the Detroit techno sound. And this is definitely some of the best examples around (along with early A.R.T. and B12 material). What was LM04 then? I must've missed that.

quoted 3 lines they are, unfortunately, quite hard to get hold of and have been released on

>they are, unfortunately, quite hard to get hold of and have been released on >vinyl only. but, i've got to stress, they are most definitely worth the >effort.

Being a lucky bastard, I was able to pick up LM01 and LM02 recently at a record fair. That was the first time I'd seen them - anyone know now many copies were pressed of each? I was also lucky enough to pick up Stasis' _Circuit Funk_ on Peacefrog, Stasis' _Point of No Return_ on B12 and a Cemtric 12" on B12. Total OD on smooth UK techno. More smooth UK techno:

quoted 12 lines Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 14:51:50 -0700 (MST)

>Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 14:51:50 -0700 (MST) >From: Eric Frans <franse@engr.arizona.edu> >Subject: (idm) insync vs. mysteron > >On Mon, 13 Oct 1997, Marie Kacmarek wrote: >} >} btw, has anyone heard or know anything about the Insync vs. >} Mysteron:Android Architect (Tenth Planet) full-length lp? > > This is a *very* solid album. The closest comparison I can make >is Influx's album _Unique_ on Rising High -- moody, well-constructed >mid-tempo IDM.

I was ever-so slightly disappointed by it but solid is the word - one or two very good tracks, the rest meander slightly and never have enough bite. But I'm being picky here because I do love the IVM sound - I think the Wookey 12" co-written with IVM (on IVM's Tenth Planet label) is probably the best example of their sound. In a Derrick May/early Carl Craig vein but again with that noticeably UK listening-oriented take on the Detroit sound. A similar release is the Jaime Read 3xLP on Fragmented which is just out now. Also check out Claude Young's _Soft Thru_ LP on Elypsia which sees Claude kick back a bit for some chilled yet warm techno. There's one thumper but the rest come across a bit like Rob Hoods _Internal Empire_ but with a European polish and feel to it. Another thumbs up. || [CiM] || simonw@sol.ftp.com || -

1997-10-14 10:20M.A.J. HuffmanAt 9:27 am +0100 14/10/97, Simon Walley wrote: > >All the Likemind stuff is pretty amazing

From:: M.A.J. Huffman <PCP95MAH@sheffield.ac.uk>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 11:20:59 +0100
Subject:: Re: (idm) Re: idm V1 #1298
Reply to:: (idm) Re: idm V1 #1298

At 9:27 am +0100 14/10/97, Simon Walley wrote:

quoted 6 lines All the Likemind stuff is pretty amazing - very much in the UK listening

> >All the Likemind stuff is pretty amazing - very much in the UK listening >take on the Detroit techno sound. And this is definitely some of the best >examples around (along with early A.R.T. and B12 material). What was LM04 >then? I must've missed that. >

LM04 has tracks from Nuron, Elegy and possibly another alias for the same people. Quite nice - one of them a bit more chunky than the usual Likemind. If they/he had only ever released the Tura track from LM03 on a one-sided 10" then their existence would be fully justified.

quoted 5 lines Being a lucky bastard, I was able to pick up LM01 and LM02 recently at a

> >Being a lucky bastard, I was able to pick up LM01 and LM02 recently at a >record fair. That was the first time I'd seen them - anyone know now many >copies were pressed of each? >

Quite - LM01 is the only one I'm missing. Is that for your smugness gauge?

quoted 4 lines I was also lucky enough to pick up Stasis' _Circuit Funk_ on Peacefrog,

>I was also lucky enough to pick up Stasis' _Circuit Funk_ on Peacefrog, >Stasis' _Point of No Return_ on B12 and a Cemtric 12" on B12. Total OD on >smooth UK techno. >

Is the Point of No Return 12" the one with largely similar tracks to the Stasis half of that joint Redcell/Statis CD? The Bedouin Ascent EP on Rising High fits quite nicely into this discussion, I think - at least three of the five tracks, anyway. I can't remember the name right now. Oh yes - whoever mentioned Holger Hiller, I quite agree. Anyone who likes Mouse on Mars should investigate. Someone mentioned the Gerd LP - I got a promo of it for 1.99 at Vinyl Exchange, thinking I couldn't lose out too much at that price. When I listened, I thought I'd been ripped off. adam

1997-10-14 13:06siliconvortex>If they/he had only ever released the Tura track from LM03 on a one-sided >10" then their

From:: siliconvortex <artist@sub-con-geo.demon.co.uk>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 14:06:21 +0100
Subject:: Re: (idm) Re: idm V1 #1298

quoted 2 lines If they/he had only ever released the Tura track from LM03 on a one-sided

>If they/he had only ever released the Tura track from LM03 on a one-sided >10" then their existence would be fully justified.

heh, this is true! but much as i love that track, the tune i would pick for the 10" would have to be electric arc by nuron, from lm01. simple (and astonishingly cheaply recorded) but once you hear it none of that matters at all. although i would have trouble leaving 'artifax' by stasis off that 10" too - i'm sure both could be squeezed on!

quoted 3 lines I was also lucky enough to pick up Stasis' _Circuit Funk_ on Peacefrog,

>>I was also lucky enough to pick up Stasis' _Circuit Funk_ on Peacefrog, >>Stasis' _Point of No Return_ on B12 and a Cemtric 12" on B12. Total OD on >>smooth UK techno.

HOW good is circuit funk? mnemonic image... i was heavily disappointed with the two lps pickton has brought out, as they can't hold a fucking candle to this early material..

quoted 2 lines Is the Point of No Return 12" the one with largely similar tracks to the

>Is the Point of No Return 12" the one with largely similar tracks to the >Stasis half of that joint Redcell/Statis CD?

yes it is.. the best tracks. questions for vanmanan is probably the best track b12 ever released

quoted 2 lines Someone mentioned the Gerd LP - I got a promo of it for 1.99 at Vinyl

>Someone mentioned the Gerd LP - I got a promo of it for 1.99 at Vinyl >Exchange,

oh so it was you who bought it :-)

quoted 2 lines thinking I couldn't lose out too much at that price. When I

>thinking I couldn't lose out too much at that price. When I >listened, I thought I'd been ripped off.

i didn't think it was *that* bad, but it doesn't get played very much here. the op-art 12 is the best stuff gerd and er.. the other one have done cheerio! np - side c from not for threes, plaid

1997-10-14 21:46Ben CofferIn message <01bcd8a1$f76bc260$60f5989e@sub-con-geo.demon.co.uk>, siliconvortex <artist@sub

From:: Ben Coffer <ben@hybridgame.demon.co.uk>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 22:46:12 +0100
Subject:: Re: (idm) Re: idm V1 #1298
Reply to:: Re: (idm) Re: idm V1 #1298

In message <01bcd8a1$f76bc260$60f5989e@sub-con-geo.demon.co.uk>, siliconvortex <artist@sub-con-geo.demon.co.uk> writes

quoted 4 lines heh, this is true! but much as i love that track, the tune i would pick for

>heh, this is true! but much as i love that track, the tune i would pick for >the 10" would have to be electric arc by nuron, from lm01. simple (and >astonishingly cheaply recorded) but once you hear it none of that matters at >all.

I would put the Stasis track from LM03 on.....i lurve that track...but then that's the only release i have on Likemind....gotta find those others somehow... -- Ben Coffer Hybrid Productions http://www.hybridgame.demon.co.uk/

1997-10-14 19:00LanceAt 09:27 AM 10/14/97 +0100, you wrote: >>From: Joe Rice <ambient@netcom.com> >>Subject: Re

From:: Lance <mclance@nacs.net>
To:: Simon Walley <simonw@sol.ftp.com>
Cc:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 14:00:36 -0500
Subject:: Re: (idm) Re: idm V1 #1298

At 09:27 AM 10/14/97 +0100, you wrote:

quoted 14 lines From: Joe Rice <ambient@netcom.com>

>>From: Joe Rice <ambient@netcom.com> >>Subject: Re: (idm) IDM suggestions >> >>At 4:16 AM -0000 10/13/97, A. Mukerjee wrote: >> >>>For someone like me that likes intelligent music that Retains harmony and >>>alot of synth pads, what would you all recommend? >> >>Rei Harakami on Sublime comes to mind as well. > >Oooh yes. I got that six-track EP a while back and it's extremely good. >Slow, analogue percussion (blip, ping, tssh) and gorgeous warm bass'n'chord >combos. Like Morgan Geist crossed with Austin Bascom. Thumbs up. >

I totally agree with Joe and Simon about the Rei Harakami 12" on Sublime. It's an essential release as are most of the Sublime releases.

quoted 9 lines they are, unfortunately, quite hard to get hold of and have been released on

> >>they are, unfortunately, quite hard to get hold of and have been released on >>vinyl only. but, i've got to stress, they are most definitely worth the >>effort. > >Being a lucky bastard, I was able to pick up LM01 and LM02 recently at a >record fair. That was the first time I'd seen them - anyone know now many >copies were pressed of each? >

I'm the proud owner of all four Likemind 12"s but it took several years to find them. As for how many were pressed, i don't know the exact number but i do know that whatever the number was it wasn't enough.

quoted 4 lines I was also lucky enough to pick up Stasis' _Circuit Funk_ on Peacefrog,

>I was also lucky enough to pick up Stasis' _Circuit Funk_ on Peacefrog, >Stasis' _Point of No Return_ on B12 and a Cemtric 12" on B12. Total OD on >smooth UK techno. >

You can't go wrong with early Stasis or B12 label material. B12 is another label that needs to release their 12"s in greater numbers and repress their entire back catalog.

quoted 7 lines I was ever-so slightly disappointed by it but solid is the word - one or

> >I was ever-so slightly disappointed by it but solid is the word - one or >two very 12" co-written with IVM (on IVM's Tenth Planet label) is probably >the best example of their sound. In a Derrick May/early Carl Craig vein but >again with that noticeably UK listening-oriented take on the Detroit sound. >A similar release is the Jaime Read 3xLP on Fragmented which is just out now. >

I really enjoy the recent IVM CD but i still believe that Insync has yet to do a track better than his Irdial track called The Storm. BTW: Are the Tenth Planet 12"s still in print? I'd love to get ahld of all of them.

(idm) Re: idm V1 #1298