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quoted 1 line i'm sure i'll get flamed for saying so, but trent's original version

>> i'm sure i'll get flamed for saying so, but trent's original version

of

quoted 1 line Perfect Drug is much better than any of the remixes. the track

>> Perfect Drug is much better than any of the remixes. the track

listing for

quoted 3 lines the nothing release of perfect drug versions goes:

>> the nothing release of perfect drug versions goes: > >No flames here... Completely agree...

I concur. (Even if the original is essentially a demo.)

quoted 1 line I actually like some NiN material (piss off =)

>I actually like some NiN material (piss off =)

Is it such a rarity for IDMers to like NIN? (That's a legitimate question, I'm new around here. :-) NIN is part of what made me aware that this music was out there.

quoted 2 lines The original

>The original >is without doubt my least favorite (rather, most disliked) NiN tune.

More so than Dead Souls? Sure it was a cover, but it was a _bad_ cover. -Matt +----------------------------------+ | Matt Woodard | | mtwoodard@hotmail.com | | http://rio.atlantic.net/~woodard | +----------------------------------+ ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

On Sun, 5 Oct 1997, Matt Woodard wrote:

quoted 5 lines I actually like some NiN material (piss off =)

> >I actually like some NiN material (piss off =) > > Is it such a rarity for IDMers to like NIN? (That's a legitimate > question, I'm new around here. :-) NIN is part of what made me aware > that this music was out there.

2 reasons why NIN isn't IDM: 1) IDM conveys a variety of emotions; NIN conveys "I hate myself & want to die while either degrading or being degraded". (Personally, I find this humorous, though ultimately quite tiresome, though I suppose that if you don't like yourself as much as I you might find comfort in someone else's self-loathing) 2) IDM doesn't sound like rot n' roll; NIN is rock tarted up with some electronics. I see no reason to discuss Mr.Reznor or his music on this list. Though it is ok to discuss some of his label signees, I also don't see any reason to discuss Mr.Reznor's motives for signing them. We've been through that already, and too many times. Che

quoted 4 lines Is it such a rarity for IDMers to like NIN? (That's a legitimate

>> Is it such a rarity for IDMers to like NIN? (That's a legitimate >> question, I'm new around here. :-) NIN is part of what made me aware >> that this music was out there. >2 reasons why NIN isn't IDM:

Umm, I know perfectly well that NIN isn't IDM. I wondered if that many IDMers really found NIN distasteful, since I see jabs at Trent's work every time anything relating to Nothing is brought up.

quoted 1 line 1) IDM conveys a variety of emotions; NIN conveys "I hate myself & want

>1) IDM conveys a variety of emotions; NIN conveys "I hate myself & want

to

quoted 1 line die while either degrading or being degraded".

>die while either degrading or being degraded".

That's not all NIN seems to convey... but I'll shut up now since I'm way off topic. :-)

quoted 2 lines 2) IDM doesn't sound like rot n' roll; NIN is rock tarted up with some

>2) IDM doesn't sound like rot n' roll; NIN is rock tarted up with some >electronics.

Yup, but who ever claimed that it was anything else?

quoted 1 line I see no reason to discuss Mr.Reznor or his music on this list.

>I see no reason to discuss Mr.Reznor or his music on this list.

It seems to me that the Perfect Drug EP fits this list's topic reasonably. As for the rest, I agree. -Matt +----------------------------------+ | Matt Woodard | | mtwoodard@hotmail.com | | http://rio.atlantic.net/~woodard | +----------------------------------+ ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

In a message dated 97-10-06 18:17:07 EDT, you write: << NIN is rock tarted up with some >electronics. >> It may be rock, but it isn't just tarted up with electronics; It is electronic in it's entirety. Try to get guitars to sound like that without using software such as turbosynth.

quoted 1 line I see no reason to discuss Mr.Reznor or his music on this list. >>>

>I see no reason to discuss Mr.Reznor or his music on this list. >>>

NIN's music is not idm: that is a given. But it is unpreventable to keep his name off the list. Why? 2 reasons----1) Because his music is in the mainstream and is heard by millions of people, and 2) believe it or not, but a lot of people do feel that trent reznor does make good electronic music. I agree that nin talk should be kept at a bare minimum, but why do you people half to slander the music whenever it is brought up? Everything on the list can't be strictly idm; talk will go astray---it is natural in any forum. A hip hop discussion was brought up the other day, and no sooner than the discusion began, there was somebody saying "No hip hop talk in this here forum-----THIS IS IDM dammit!!". I feel that this a bunch of b.s. Are you saying that hip hop has no relation to idm?? Just because you may not find it interesting doesn't mean that other people don't also. YES, the main topic of discusion should be IDM, but it is only natural that its related genres are going to be discussed also(hip hop, electro, industrial, krautrock,house, ect..) I foresee a day when this forum is really "intelligent" and there will be know bickering and whining. Umm not really, but it would be nice. piece or peace