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quoted 7 lines - KEN ISHII, Jelly Tones

>> > - KEN ISHII, Jelly Tones >> >> I find this very bland. > >I find it enthralling. Cocoa Mousse is brilliant. Indeed, the >thumpyness of the kicks take a bite from your tolerance tablet, but >

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quoted 3 lines It's not really the thumpyness that gets me, it could almost do with

>It's not really the thumpyness that gets me, it could almost do with >being more thumpy in places. It just strikes me as being an aural >equivalent of caster oil.

i can see that, but if you think jelly tones has some weird sounds you'd hate most of his earlier stuff! the man like ishii gets the atonal pads against full-digital beats and asymetrical melody lines - warm and disorienting all at once. he's one of these artists that i can't figure out whether they have tons of training, or none at all. that jelly tones (and associated 12s) album is a lot more normal in every respect. <back to teep>

quoted 3 lines Ishii soup is way flavor. How do the FLARE releases compare to

>Ishii soup is way flavor. How do the FLARE releases compare to >this and other namesake releases, garden of the palm, tangled notes, >utu?

his stuff progresses pretty chronologically, and in fact seems to do a little boomerang if you catch him early enough. his first 12, "rising sun" (esp), is pretty straight ahead ambient detroit smoothness. it's half breakbeat and half house, and one of the tracks was remixed by him into "haze (blind mix)," one of his landmark tracks ("the ambient groove v.3" (esp) is findable much more often on cd than vinyl). "utu" (+8, probably still available) is all 4x4 techno and it's his hardest stuff, somewhat reminiscent of robert armani's later stuff and will clear the typical dancefloor just as quickly (only with much more atmosphere, check his remix on dan curtin's sublime 12). "garden on the palm" and "tangled notes" are fairly in the same era as each other, along with his mini album (7 tracks) on sublime, "reference to difference." these three (somewhat along with the earlier r&s/apollo three-trackers "pneuma" and "deep sleep") explore 6 or 7 different themes and structures. this doesn't mean they all sound the same, but from track to track you hear familiar things come in and out - and since this is ken ishii we're talking about here, there is nothing in these tracks that you'd recognize from listening to anything else (a chunk of the r&s stuff is compiled on the r&s cd "innervisions"). the thing about ken ishii is that his rhythms are so off-kilter/complex and the pads (long ambientish noises) are multilayered and dissonant, and the whole picture is so odd that i wonder what motiviates him to go/have gone in these directions! this has become somewhat moot with his jelly tones-ification, bringing him more in step with the detroit techno that has so obviously influenced him. there are also some flare 12's that i don't have that are sparse techno stompers ("grip" (sublime), by the way is pretty close to "jelly tones," only with warmer mastering and a bit more variable content). and if you crave techno weirdness after all this, it's a short hop to "re-grip," the remix album for "grip." 15-20 japanese music freaks tearing it up and, sometimes, smoothing it out. yamatsuka eye and dj takemura are a couple of the more well known remixers (anyone check takemura's track on pacific state .5X [or so]? super good, it's just too bad these singles are always one good track and the rest garbage).

quoted 8 lines Subject: Re: (idm) murura luminous vinyl comp

>Subject: Re: (idm) murura luminous vinyl comp > > >Muruora is a collaberation between the following labels: >Rephlex, Acid Planet, ACV, and Axodia. >the artists featured are: >Cylob (rephlex), Synectics (axodia), Leo Anibaldi (ACV), and Ferenc (Acid >Planet).

um, i could'a swore ectomorph did that one track.. anyway, eric onnow: stereolab:dots and loops(elektra)