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written by mshephrd@sirius.com (Michael Shepherd) Subject: lnt-lp (was Re: (idm) Duff Paddy) lnt-lp: Sorcerer, Nefertiti, Miles Smiles, ESP

quoted 2 lines I dare anyone to argue a better time period for Miles...including the

>I dare anyone to argue a better time period for Miles...including the >previous Coltrane-era Miles quintet!

no argument required;, over a 40yr time scale there are stylistic variations a plenty to choose from, put two miles fans together and i guarantee you will get 2 different answers, but i plump for this quartet of albums from period [70-74], put these 4 up against todays 'kings of idm' and you will see for yourself what charlatans they are are live evil,tribute to jack johnson,on the corner,get up with it stuart @ mfr -- http://dialspace.dial.pipex.com/mfr/ cutting edge mail order..elecktronic label [esoteric, non-generic material wanted]

gotta add my bit here too, miles really is god. if anyone out there has not heard his discography (extensively), if you actually exist, then you are missing one of the greatest musicians/composers/artists/whatever...in history. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe he was the 1st to plug-in his trumpet. I'll add another name to this 'god' thang. Frank Zappa. I put him right there with Miles. Another true innovator & electronic composer. Comments? ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: (idm) miles is god Author: "\[sm\]" <mfr@dial.pipex.com> at AWT_INTERNET_PO Date: 10/3/97 8:52 AM written by mshephrd@sirius.com (Michael Shepherd) Subject: lnt-lp (was Re: (idm) Duff Paddy) lnt-lp: Sorcerer, Nefertiti, Miles Smiles, ESP

quoted 2 lines I dare anyone to argue a better time period for Miles...including the

>I dare anyone to argue a better time period for Miles...including the >previous Coltrane-era Miles quintet!

no argument required;, over a 40yr time scale there are stylistic variations a plenty to choose from, put two miles fans together and i guarantee you will get 2 different answers, but i plump for this quartet of albums from period [70-74], put these 4 up against todays 'kings of idm' and you will see for yourself what charlatans they are are live evil,tribute to jack johnson,on the corner,get up with it stuart @ mfr -- http://dialspace.dial.pipex.com/mfr/ cutting edge mail order..elecktronic label [esoteric, non-generic material wanted]

At 8:32 AM -0400 10/3/97, Colin Cahill wrote:

quoted 3 lines I'll add another name to this 'god' thang. Frank Zappa. I put him

> I'll add another name to this 'god' thang. Frank Zappa. I put him > right there with Miles. Another true innovator & electronic composer. > Comments?

Definitely, Frank was a genius. Actually, tonight I'm going to see the Pittsburgh Symphony, and they're going to play one of his orchestral pieces. I couldn't miss that one. __ Ben Cox cox@transarc.com

On 3 Oct 97, Colin Cahill wrote: Re: (idm) miles is god:

quoted 2 lines I'll add another name to this 'god' thang. Frank Zappa.

> I'll add another name to this 'god' thang. Frank Zappa. > [...] Another true innovator & electronic composer. Comments?

Oh ABSOLUTEMENTO :-) Musically, Hot Rats (which originally appeared in '69 and was remixed by Bob Stone for Rycodisc in 1987) still is a landmark achievement. Apart from his many many other brilliant albums. Please don't flame if you disagree : this is just - as usual - my personal opinion. I *

I'll agree that Miles is great, although my experience with him is limited (relatively speaking); however I'd argue that Herbie Hancock pushed the boundaries of jazz much farther....but I'd certainly guess that his work with Miles helped him immensely. --Matt

quoted 13 lines On Sat, 4 Oct 1997 04:39:09 -0400 (EDT) ReZOn8oR@aol.com writes:

>On Sat, 4 Oct 1997 04:39:09 -0400 (EDT) ReZOn8oR@aol.com writes: >>I'll agree that Miles is great, although >>my experience with him is limited >>(relatively speaking); however I'd >>argue that Herbie Hancock pushed >>the boundaries of jazz much farther.... >>but I'd certainly guess that his work with >>Miles helped him immensely. > >boy, that's rather silly. hancock wrote *some* great tunes (and even >some incredible tunes), but compared to miles (who, in my opinion, >infused a touch of genius into all of his recordings), hancock is a minor >figure...but then I'm a jazz trumpet player, so perhaps I'm a bit biased.

Often overlooked in the 'JazzGod' category, but as far as I'm concerned is the most important figure in jazz (okay tied with Sun Ra) is Roland Kirk. Check his 'Black Roots' record on Atlantic where he plays everything by himself at once (ie. gets a couple horns going with some circular breathing while kicking some percussions with his feet, etc...). His stuff ranges from downright funky to downright fucked up. I think Rhino re-issued the best of his Atlantic years stuff. Oh by the way, Herbie Hancock is wicked but he never touched Miles at his finest My jazz snob two cents Ninja J.

On Mon, 6 Oct 1997, Ninja Tune/Discreet wrote:

quoted 1 line My jazz snob two cents

> My jazz snob two cents

My jazz two cents along with another 20 odd clams are taking me to the 20th anniversary John Coltrane Memorial Concert Sat/Sun @ the Blackman Aud. Northeastern U. feat the likes of Leonard Brown, Sa Davis, Syd Smart... If miles is god, Trane is God. ;) Teep np: Welcome