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So RDJ is god. So RDJ isn't god. Personally, all this pontificating is making me sick. I like SAW 1, but while I can hear the melody in a lot of his later stuff, the nastiness of the beats is too much to take. Now, Alberto Balsam -there's a track and a half. Can anyone put me onto anymore of RDJ's stuff (or anyone's) which is as beautiful as this piece? Ventolin: I can appreciate its unmitigated evil, but that's something I am just not prepared to go through on a regular basis -even for Alberto Balsam. What is the frigging point??!! It occurred to me today that maybe we just shouldn't count on established names to go on pleasing us, album after album. After all, the first time you heard Aphex or whoever, you'd never heard him before (Duh), so you had no expectations of liking it. If you did, great. If not, maybe you had to wait until you heard the Orb (or whoever), before making your first inroad into IDM. My point being that fan loyalty seems particularily misplaced in this market. IDM artists will go on experimenting, and will probably leave lots of us in the dust. So screw the glow-in-the-dark vinyl, limited edition, FAXphlex adulation. The best music in the world is probably being made by soemone we haven't even heard yet. "I've sung a lot of songs, I've made some bad rhymes." Ray Charles This message came from Matt.

quoted 3 lines i think it's pretty ironic that RDJ (Mr Pisstake of the century) gets

>i think it's pretty ironic that RDJ (Mr Pisstake of the century) gets >your respect and when i try to point out that he's taking the piss you >say that i am taking the piss. typical really i suppose.

hey jon.. it is pretty clear now that you don't like RDJ or his music very much.. from this and esp from a past discussion (RDJ vs. prodigy) you said:

quoted 7 lines of course not.. they do it themselves because they are trying to be

>> of course not.. they do it themselves because they are trying to be >> weird, stand out, start trends. they are trendy. their music is >> bad.. do you agree at least that aphex's music is much better? > >nope. i think they both are pretty juvenile. i respect liam's >production skills more than rdj's tho. just from a purely technical >perspective.

so cut it out. :) you don't like aphex twin, that's fine. stop saying that his beats are the way they are because he can't use his equipment properly. keeping drums on a standard rhythm is one of the easiest things to do.. how can someone mess it up? (sheesh, he even makes [or used to] his own equipment--how could he not know how to use it?) and why didn't he have "messed-up" rhythms in most of his other stuff? you think he just started to use his equip. improperly? if you don't like it, fine, say so.. but don't say it was unintended. and please don't argue about it anymore.. esp with me. :) .... grav

chris r graves writes:

quoted 3 lines so cut it out. :) you don't like aphex twin, that's fine. stop

> so cut it out. :) you don't like aphex twin, that's fine. stop > saying that his beats are the way they are because he can't use his > equipment properly.

i can say what i think. my personal opinion is that he is taking the piss in a major way. then again, charles mingus said of ornette coleman "that dude couldn't play a straight c major scale." i never cared for ornette coleman.

quoted 1 line and please don't argue about it anymore.. esp with me. :)

> and please don't argue about it anymore.. esp with me. :)

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