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1997-09-22 15:09James Binks Re: (idm) gear (off-topic)
1997-09-22 19:18Giles Ward Re: (idm) gear (off-topic)
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1997-09-22 15:09James BinksI don't want to start off that nasty "PC vs Sampler" thread again that recently ended up w
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Re: (idm) gear (off-topic)
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I don't want to start off that nasty "PC vs Sampler" thread again that recently ended up with one list-member self-combusting, but I'd recommend that if you're setting up a home-studio from scratch with not much money, then try to find yourself a second-hand Ensoniq EPS 16+ sampler - should cost about 700 dollars for the rackmount version. Just listen to any of Autechre's tracks (they use one as their main piece of kit) and you'll hear its FX and fancy sampling tricks everywhere... or LFO (Bell and Varley have one each!), or Alex Reece, who wrote his first album with just that and a cheap keyboard...get the idea ? Together with a second-hand Atari and Cubase software ($200) and a Boss DR660 drum machine ($300), you'd have a shit-hot little setup with tighter MIDI timing than most budget PC setups, and which would still be useful in two years time. This is one reason why I prefer "real" samplers and synths to PCs - whereas computers tend to be regarded as obsolete after a few years, musical equipment just becomes "classic" or "old school"...would you rather be the future owner of a TB303 or a 286 ? :) I've lived a "discount store" lifestyle longer than I can recall in order to get a half-decent studio set-up together, and I can honestly say that even with racks full of gear and synths (including an Akai industry standard S3200XL that kept me in polyester clothing for two years to pay off), my old Ensoniq EPS 16+ has the best FX and features that I've ever heard/seen on any device. The versatility and sound of the thing is fantastic - it's difficult _not_ to create incredible soundscapes - gutsy, raw, weird, twisted, kooky, electric sounds pour out of the machine. Choose wisely ! James
1997-09-22 19:18Giles WardJames Binks <James.Binks@ccmail.eu.sony.co.jp> wrote: > I don't want to start off that nas
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Mon, 22 Sep 1997 20:18:58 +0100
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Re: (idm) gear (off-topic)
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James Binks <James.Binks@ccmail.eu.sony.co.jp> wrote:
quoted 1 line I don't want to start off that nasty "PC vs Sampler" thread again> I don't want to start off that nasty "PC vs Sampler" thread again
that
quoted 4 lines recently ended up with one list-member self-combusting, but I'd> recently ended up with one list-member self-combusting, but I'd > recommend that if you're setting up a home-studio from scratch with > not much money, then try to find yourself a second-hand Ensoniq EPS > 16+ sampler - should cost about 700 dollars for the rackmount
version.
quoted 4 lines Just listen to any of Autechre's tracks (they use one as their main> > Just listen to any of Autechre's tracks (they use one as their main > piece of kit) and you'll hear its FX and fancy sampling tricks > everywhere... or LFO (Bell and Varley have one each!), or Alex
Reece,
quoted 2 lines who wrote his first album with just that and a cheap keyboard...get> who wrote his first album with just that and a cheap keyboard...get > the idea ?
I second that. I'm still happy with my 16+ after several years. Go for an ASR for more effects and memory if you see one cheap. SCSI interface if you're feeling flush...
quoted 3 lines Together with a second-hand Atari and Cubase software ($200) and a> Together with a second-hand Atari and Cubase software ($200) and a > Boss DR660 drum machine ($300), you'd have a shit-hot little setup > with tighter MIDI timing than most budget PC setups, and which would
quoted 1 line still be useful in two years time.> still be useful in two years time.
Ae use a Roland R8, which are going cheapish these days.
quoted 4 lines my old Ensoniq EPS 16+ has the best FX and features> my old Ensoniq EPS 16+ has the best FX and features > that I've ever heard/seen on any device. > > The versatility and sound of the thing is fantastic - it's difficult
quoted 1 line _not_ to create incredible soundscapes - gutsy, raw, weird, twisted,> _not_ to create incredible soundscapes - gutsy, raw, weird, twisted,
quoted 1 line kooky, electric sounds pour out of the machine. Choose wisely !> kooky, electric sounds pour out of the machine. Choose wisely !
It was ahead of it's time, re-sampling with effects, modulation of sample points, transwaves, nice little sequencer with muting, low depreciation (that goes for most hardware samplers..) Don't ignore the PC side though, Sound Forge/Cool Edit/Reality/Audio Architect all offer enormous scope for new sounds. Just get a bit of both, purism always ends in tears.