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1997-04-07 06:11d... (idm) the roots of idm:my story
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1997-04-07 06:11d...i have been following the whole 'roots of idm' thread with great interest. it's always ama
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i have been following the whole 'roots of idm' thread with great interest. it's always amazing to see how other peoples paths led them to common ground. here is how it all came together for me with a few recommended listens tied in: 1977-9:(i would have been 10) kiss-destroyer. "beth, i hear you callin..." kiss-dynasty. this features the classic "i was made for lovin you" 1980: blondie-autoamerican. (the tide is high and rapture) this was a gift from my mothers aunt, who had walked into the record store and asked for "what kids like" 1982 and onward duran duran-duran duran/rio. they were the only band that mattered to me as a 12 year old. they set the pace for all that followed. i have a collection of duran goodies that at one point in my life was known world wide. i went to paris in 1987 and i went into a shop and started to talk with the owner and he had heard about me and all of stuff. this was very cool! depeche mode-people are people then the entire back catalog. the cure-boys don't cry, charlotte sometimes, then all of it joy division/new order-it all rocked. so i obsessively collected it all! roxy music-my intro to both bryan ferry and mr. eno. eno was more a curiousity i read about and didn't really know what to make of until i really started to study music. japan-this is where it gets sort of interesting. i credit japan as being one of my primary sources of "ambient" insight. the music on "tin drum" was the first pop i had heard that had some feeling of what i would later call ambient music. as well, the art of noise changed my thought processes reagrding the arrangement of songs and the use of instruments. when i saw them play live (1985-6) it changed my notions of the "band mentality" arcadia-this was a duran side project and features 2 tracks that changed my life forever. "lady ice," which was a really slow ambient-y piece and a long version of "rose arcana" which was originally about 1 minute long on the album. the remix is 6 or 7 minutes and is all instrumental, but very much ambient as opposed to a regular "song" david sylvian-after japan split sylvian's solo work really crossed me over the threshold. he was very heavily influenced by eno and can and wanted to show it. the progression of his work really made me appreciate the potential for vision in the work of others. at the same time i was getting into ambient music there was something else alltogether. cabaret voltaire (micro-phonies, crackdown, code, hypnotised etc. etc) nitzer ebb (join in the chant (harding mix), that total age, belief) front 242 (front by front, official version) skinny puppy (bites, remission, mind tpi, dig it, chainsaw) ministry (halloween, over the shoulder, stigmata) rev co (no devotion, beers, steers and queers) et al. this was the way for me to see the light. i started djing in a club in 1986 and i was really into playing the "new wave hits of the day" these included all of the above mentioned plus punk, ska, reggae, brit pop and everything in between. i really liked the agressive edge that industrial offered and the kids really dug it when i played it really loud in the clubs. AND THEN CAME HOUSE! it sort of just fell in my lap. it started with "pump up the volume" and "house nation" and "jack your body" and snowballed from there. i still really get off on the old classics. someday maybe someone will put out a really good 3-4 cd set of all the really insane old school house tracks from that time period (if anyone knows of one, please e-mail and give me dirty details!) techno came and was really cheesy in it's infancy. sogs like "sesame's treet" were goofy but there was one little song that got me back into the fray: "pacific" by 808 state. they were on to something. i went to my first "rave" in 1990. a huge party that was part of the 1990 new music seminar in nyc. it featured 808, happy mondays, northside, adamski, dee-lite and a bunch of dj's including oakenfold. this gave me crazy ideas! i guess from there it just progresses into alot of branches of a very big tree. some of the things i've bought that have blown my nuggets were: orbital-brown lp vapourspace-gravitational arch of 10 ep speedy j-ginger and g-spot eat static-implant global communications-76:14 aphex-saw I plastikman-recycled plastik submerge-into the void banco de gaia-last train... from within-fax escape-fax seefeel-quique this is just off the top of my head. one of the things i really enjoy about my collection of music is that, imho, there isn't alot of crap. you know how every now and again you pick something up and you bring it home and it's just ok? (this, fortunately, doesn't happen so much now because you can usually listen before you buy. although, a quick skip through a disc is no guarantee. we can all vouch for this:-( ) well, that about says what i thought should be said. keep up the good 'roots' posts and down with the crappy flames. best regards, peace, love and ambience. d... orbital@clo.com
1997-04-06 18:55Ben CofferIn message <3.0.32.19970407021111.006a4538@clo.com>, "d..." <orbital@clo.com> writes > >i
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In message <3.0.32.19970407021111.006a4538@clo.com>, "d..." <orbital@clo.com> writes
quoted 4 lines i have been following the whole 'roots of idm'> >i have been following the whole 'roots of idm' >thread with great interest. it's always amazing to >see how other peoples paths led them to common ground.
This is a cool thread....interesting to see those different paths. My older brother is 7 years my senior and therefore my mind was plied with unusual stuff from an early age...this is my (somewhat more boring) route to what i listen to today: 1983 - 9 years old, heard Tour de France, interesting sound, got into breakdancing...but not for long. (+ the only record i liked) 1985 - 11 years old, this is when i first got into music. Had two tapes (Radioactivity - Kraftwerk and The Essential - JMJ) to my name, listened to them solidly. 1987 - Heard steve silk hurley's "jack your body", Bomb the Bass, MARRS etc...actually started buying music...(well, singles anyway...i'd bought JMJ albums before this). 1988 - Got out of house and into HipHop solidly until... 1991 - Rave, breakbeat hardcore...and Richie Hawtin/Terrace..mainly 1996 - Back into electronica.... so, full circle then...hooray. But it's a pitiful route compared to some of the ones you others have taken. -- Ben Coffer Hybrid Productions http://www.hybridgame.demon.co.uk/