Synaptic Records wrote:
quoted 3 lines I assumed the subject was electronic music. As for a common vocabulary, I
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> I assumed the subject was electronic music. As for a common vocabulary, I
> think we all are using English to describe our opinions.
Are Spice Girls electronic? If not, why not? All of the music is made
with electronic machines, and their vocals are electronically spliced
together from numerous takes.
This is what I mean by a common vocabulary. I know what you meant by
"electronic music," and I know you didn't mean to include Spice Girls.
I feel pretty safe asserting that Spice Girls are not what this list is
for (despite the argument I made above), don't you?
quoted 4 lines I'm not trying to
> I'm not trying to
> be condescending, I just get so pissed off about hearing that IDM has to be
> a certain rhythm, texture, idea,etc...to be considered worth something.
> That's Bullshit. If it is, then this music is doomed.
I agree entirely. Man cannot live on Autechre alone. Things have to
evolve and mutate (and the vocabulary evolves with it). For instance,
when the Squarepushers and Plugs and Hangable Auto Bulbs of the world
started showing up, they were very different from, say, _Tri_Repetae_,
but it was pretty obvious to everyone here, whether you liked them or
not, that they belonged here. I'm all for a highly inclusive definition
of this music, and in terms of what gets discussed here, the list tends
to police itself (which is why, normally, I don't enter discussions like
these).
My Tenor assertion was based on the idea that _Intervision_ is not
evolutionary, rather it was retreading old ground, and not in a
particularly imaginative way. In other words, it used precious little
of the vocabulary of this music we discuss here, and it doesn't expand
it in any meaningful way. Since no one has agreed with me yet,
apparently everyone feels differently about this than I do, but so far
the only arguments I've heard in favor of Tenor's IDM-ness is that (a)
it's "good" (which really can't be the basis for any list because it's
way too subjective to be useful) and (b) it's "electronic" (as Spice
Girls are). I personally think it takes more than that.
That's really all I was trying to say.
The Rare Guy <buh@clark.net> wrote:
quoted 1 line and what's to say lounge music isn't IDM? who says it isn't IDM.
> and what's to say lounge music isn't IDM? who says it isn't IDM.
Apparently, only me.
Erkki Rautio <trerra@uta.fi> wrote:
quoted 1 line So if it isn't IDM, who cares
> So if it isn't IDM, who cares
Again, apparently, only me.
NP: Graeme Revell - _The_Crow:_Original_Motion_Picture_Score_
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