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1997-02-23 01:16*+* Re: (idm) Trans Am
1997-02-23 10:02David Seruyange (idm) Spooky & Neil Live
1997-02-23 20:06Chris Fahey RE: (idm) Spooky & Neil Live
1997-02-24 00:19Dr. Giggles RE: (idm) Spooky & Neil Live
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1997-02-23 01:16*+*>yah, >anybody have the full 411 (or a pointer to the archives) on the trans am >single on
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quoted 5 lines yah,>yah, >anybody have the full 411 (or a pointer to the archives) on the trans am >single on which they "trade krautrock for body-rock"? i read somewhere it was >on some surprising british label (certificate 18?) but i can't remember >what i read exactly, or exactly where i read it.
this could be the illegal ass 12" w/ randy groove which is probably out of print by now. there is a version of this on the new album though, although i'm sure a 12" pressing is probably better. also interesting is their split 7" w/ thigh masterseen. they do a cover of kraftwerks man machine. david *+* on now:flare-re-grip http://home.connectnet.com/lotus/
1997-02-23 10:02David SeruyangeJust saw DJ Spooky and Ben Neil live in Hollywood. The club? was a different experience fo
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Just saw DJ Spooky and Ben Neil live in Hollywood. The club? was a different experience for me; there were chairs set up like bleachers, on different levels of some kind of wood platform. So people just sat and watched... I guess this works for Spooky, who I think sometimes wants to weed the weak out in the beginning by playing really challenging shite, but Ben Neil had some really good stuff that had straight drum & bass beats. Which brings me to my question: Who pretends to know DJ Spooky's muzik? It took about 30 minutes, but after he warmed up, he played some interesting stuff-acidic high pitched static with far off hip hop and jungle beats, but honestly, in the beginning I think he wanted to make his muzik as "unfriendly" as possible. By the way, Ben Neil is really incredible.. not only is his "Tryptical" full length a must have, but he is incredible to watch live. -d-
1997-02-23 20:06Chris FaheyI've seen Spooky about a dozen times. He likes to treat his events as more along the lines
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I've seen Spooky about a dozen times. He likes to treat his events as more along the lines of a rock show - you stare at the musician and nod your head. You're supposed to think about the music, not bug out to it. People who have never seen a DJ before sometimes come to see him play at artsy-fartsy hoity-toity places like the Knitting Factory or the Kitchen (venues which usually play stuff like virtuosic guitarists and performance artists). Having read Spooky's liner notes or an article in Art Forum, they want to see what this whole "DJ-ing-is-actually-an-art-form" idea is all about. Many of them seem to think that DJ Spooky is the first DJ to ever consider the turntables an instrument with which to make music (actually he seems to use a great deal more standard off-the-rack break beat disks than other headlining/performing DJ's I've heard). So anyway, his intention is not the same as many other DJ's: It's not to make you get up and dance, nor is it to impress you with virtuosic scratchin, nor are you supposed to be impressed with his vast, cool record collection. His intention is to confront the audience with new ideas. He over-intellectualizes the thing. He is fully capable of any of the above three DJ duties, but chooses to avoid them in favor of making himself look smarter than you. The thing is, I own 2 of his CD's and I very much like to listen to them - to me they are much better that most IDM/Ambient if only for the reason that he often deliberately avoids formula. Unfortunately, his boring live shows and his whole pretentious attitude prevent me from being able to honestly say "DJ Spooky is cool". When it comes to avoiding formula but still employing techniques and styles of established genres, he's nothing like Squarepusher or AFX. When it comes to lushness and texture, there's a dozen folks on Mo'Wax who have him beat as well. -Chris Fahey
quoted 28 lines -----Original Message-----> -----Original Message----- > From: idm-owner@hyperreal.com [SMTP:idm-owner@hyperreal.com] On Behalf > Of David.Seruyange@bubbs.biola.edu > Sent: Sunday, February 23, 1997 5:03 AM > To: idm@hyperreal.com > Subject: (idm) Spooky & Neil Live > > Just saw DJ Spooky and Ben Neil live in Hollywood. The club? was a > different experience for me; there were chairs set up like bleachers, > on different levels of some kind of wood platform. So people just sat > and watched... > > I guess this works for Spooky, who I think sometimes wants to weed the > weak out in the beginning by playing really challenging shite, but Ben > Neil had some really good stuff that had straight drum & bass beats. > > Which brings me to my question: > Who pretends to know DJ Spooky's muzik? It took about 30 minutes, but > after he warmed up, he played some interesting stuff-acidic high > pitched static with far off hip hop and jungle beats, but honestly, in > the beginning I think he wanted to make his muzik as "unfriendly" as > possible. > > By the way, Ben Neil is really incredible.. not only is his > "Tryptical" > full length a must have, but he is incredible to watch live. > > -d-
1997-02-24 00:19Dr. GigglesAt 03:06 PM 2/23/97 -0500, Chris Fahey wrote: >I've seen Spooky about a dozen times. He li
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At 03:06 PM 2/23/97 -0500, Chris Fahey wrote:
quoted 14 lines I've seen Spooky about a dozen times. He likes to treat his events as>I've seen Spooky about a dozen times. He likes to treat his events as >more along the lines of a rock show - you stare at the musician and nod >your head. You're supposed to think about the music, not bug out to it. > >People who have never seen a DJ before sometimes come to see him play at >artsy-fartsy hoity-toity places like the Knitting Factory or the Kitchen >(venues which usually play stuff like virtuosic guitarists and >performance artists). Having read Spooky's liner notes or an article in >Art Forum, they want to see what this whole >"DJ-ing-is-actually-an-art-form" idea is all about. Many of them seem to >think that DJ Spooky is the first DJ to ever consider the turntables an >instrument with which to make music (actually he seems to use a great >deal more standard off-the-rack break beat disks than other >headlining/performing DJ's I've heard).
As it has been said before, many dj's would put dj Spooky to shame. If someone wants to see a real turntablist (someone playing the turntables as an instrument) I suggest checking out q-bert, mixmaster mike, dj swamp, dj Alladin, and tons of others...dj spooky has not even passed scratching 101 yet. The fact that he plays the experimental (psuedo?)intellectual music, and (somewhat prentensiouly) qoutes philosophers and shit makes some people think he is innovative, which I give him credit for actually doing in public and not just his bedroom, I would just hate to see him get credit for inventing the art of battle djing which has been around for well over a decade.
quoted 7 lines So anyway, his intention is not the same as many other DJ's: It's not to>So anyway, his intention is not the same as many other DJ's: It's not to >make you get up and dance, nor is it to impress you with virtuosic >scratchin, nor are you supposed to be impressed with his vast, cool >record collection. His intention is to confront the audience with new >ideas. He over-intellectualizes the thing. He is fully capable of any of >the above three DJ duties, but chooses to avoid them in favor of making >himself look smarter than you.
He should clean up his act, cause he made himself look a little silly when he came to Portland to the people that weren't fooled by the smoke and mirrors. derek
1997-02-24 00:48tickle me>He should clean up his act, cause he made himself look a little silly when >he came to Po
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quoted 2 lines He should clean up his act, cause he made himself look a little silly when>He should clean up his act, cause he made himself look a little silly when >he came to Portland to the people that weren't fooled by the smoke and mirrors.
He'd be successful in Fort Worth, though. We're all dumb. grant.h.horne http://delta.is.tcu.edu/~ghhorne/