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1997-01-27 12:47Aaron MichelsonOn 27 Jan 1997 13:56 -0600 (-1100), Deckard wrote to me: > Nowadays, however, Bill Leob is

From:: Aaron Michelson <aaron@defiant.on-it.net>
To:: Deckard <njurcin@orion.it.luc.edu>
Cc:: <idm@hyperreal.com>
Date:: 27 Jan 97 17:47:31 +0500
Subject:: (idm) Re: (amb) Was: Intelligent v Industrial

On 27 Jan 1997 13:56 -0600 (-1100), Deckard wrote to me:

quoted 2 lines Nowadays, however, Bill Leob is very prolific, more so than

> Nowadays, however, Bill Leob is very prolific, more so than > cEvin himself....

That's the biggest pile of bollocks I've heard... Taste some Download, mix in a litle Teargarden and a dash of Charlie's Family to taste, and you've got quality ORIGINAL music. I have no doubts that Wilhelm Schroeder (aka Bill Leeb) is a talented musician, but his tendency to blatantly rip-off major artists (Enigma and the Orb from Delerium's "Semantic Spaces" comes to mind) pales compared to the brilliant technical and musical superiority of cEvin Key. Nagging suspicions lead me to believe that your praising of Bill Leeb is only because his music is far more accessable that the experimental likes of Key. onnow: download "the eyes of stanley pain" (nettwerk) Lame Thread Prevention in Effect: Aaron Michelson --------------------------------------------------------------------- aw-teck'r (autechre) "Everything you Know is Wrong" For reviews, interviews, art & trash http://www.on-it.net/~aaron/ aaron@defiant.on-it.net

1997-01-27 23:37Ashok Divakaran> > Nowadays, however, Bill Leob is very prolific, more so than > > cEvin himself.... > >

From:: Ashok Divakaran <adivakaran@worldbank.org>
To:: Aaron Michelson <aaron@defiant.on-it.net>
Cc:: Deckard <njurcin@orion.it.luc.edu>, idm <idm@hyperreal.com>
Date:: Mon, 27 Jan 1997 23:37:54 +0000 (GMT)
Subject:: RE: (idm) Re: (amb) Was: Intelligent v Industrial
Reply to:: (idm) Re: (amb) Was: Intelligent v Industrial

quoted 11 lines Nowadays, however, Bill Leob is very prolific, more so than

> > Nowadays, however, Bill Leob is very prolific, more so than > > cEvin himself.... > > That's the biggest pile of bollocks I've heard... > > Taste some Download, mix in a litle Teargarden and a dash of Charlie's > Family to taste, and you've got quality ORIGINAL music. I have no doubts > that Wilhelm Schroeder (aka Bill Leeb) is a talented musician, but his > tendency to blatantly rip-off major artists (Enigma and the Orb from > Delerium's "Semantic Spaces" comes to mind) pales compared to the brilliant > technical and musical superiority of cEvin Key.

The worst that one can accuse Semantic Spaces of being is an Enigma clone, not a rip-off. The melodies are original and the production's farmore accomplished than any Enigma I've heard. It's still a bit too suavely hodge-podgy for me, but it's a fine pop record.

quoted 4 lines Nagging suspicions lead me to believe that your praising of Bill Leeb is

> > Nagging suspicions lead me to believe that your praising of Bill Leeb is > only because his music is far more accessable that the experimental likes > of Key.

Yeah, he's gifted, but nagging suspicions also lead me to believe that you're placing too high a premium on inaccessibility for its own sake. A LOT of Cevin Key's recent music is a soupy mess of samples without much depth or direction. Sure, Leeb can sound unbelievably stale at times and pillages samples in jaw-droppingly brazen ways, but his best is better than most of what Key's done in the last few years, IMVHO :-) Ur, I think Greg's turning green. Let's move on to something more listy. I've been playing the hell out of Higher Intelligence Agency's "Freefloater" recently and am amazed it's not discussed on this list more often. Oh, I forgot, it's on Beyond, so I guess that makes it "ambient" :-) Ashok

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