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Geez, I didn't realze what a stir I would cause with the "industrial dance" post. I don't know about the rest of you, but some of that stuff never seems to grow old. Just think about how things would sound today if bands like Skinny Puppy, Front Line Assembly, ClockDVA, etc., had never been. As far as those of you who think you've transcended into some sort of deity because you've listened to ambient longer or have been on the Internet for a decade, I laugh at you. I thought the "I'm-better-than-you" attitude was only reserved for the (thankfully) now-dead Heavy Metal scene. Dennis O'Hare noise@webtv.net

quoted 4 lines Geez, I didn't realze what a stir I would cause with the "industrial

> Geez, I didn't realze what a stir I would cause with the "industrial > dance" post. I don't know about the rest of you, but some of that stuff > never seems to grow old. Just think about how things would sound today if > bands like Skinny Puppy, Front Line Assembly, ClockDVA, etc., had never been.

Well, it grew real old to me, but that's just IMHO. Anyway, no one's saying anything about those bands or The Music That Came Before, someone just asked about "Whatever happened to good ol' Roc... erm, Industrial Dance" and I gave my 2¢ on the matter. (It also spawned a flurry of posts that aren't really all that on-topic, but what the hey.) My intent was not to dis on people that like that music or still listen to it, or listen to other types of music beyond IDM/Techno/Electronica. (Hi Jan (-: )

quoted 5 lines As far as those of you who think you've transcended into

> As far as those of you who think you've transcended into > some sort of deity because you've listened to ambient longer or have > been on the Internet for a decade, I laugh at you. I thought the > "I'm-better-than-you" attitude was only reserved for the (thankfully) > now-dead Heavy Metal scene.

You're misunderstanding my point. Pixel8ion had posted

quoted 6 lines Funny how people come along when something is already been established and

> Funny how people come along when something is already been established and > act like they had a major role in it's develpoment. Look forward to more > schmucks like this one coming outta the woodwork to take credit. > > *** At least we can sleep comfortably in our beds at night knowing that there > are people out there ready to capitalize on others hard work.

... in reference to Perry Farrell getting up on MTV and proclaiming the merging of people and technology in music as the future or somesuch. In other words, the old "Gee, that's a great idea ... glad *I* thought of it!" fashion. All I was saying is that this "Internet phenomenon" of the past 3 years or so has been very interesting to those of us who've been on it for a long time. If you take a look at, say, the speakers' lists at things like Internet World or whatnot, you'd find that almost none of the people whose names are on it are people that you actually recognize as having been around "back in the day". (Not to say that they weren't, mind you; but if they were, they were keeping an awfully low profile (-: ) This has nothing to do with a "better-than-thou" attitude (heck, the ARPANET was already 15 years old by the time I got my arse on it, who am I to talk?), just an observation of an eerily similar co-optation phenomenon. I suspect it's rather universal ... - Greg