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(idm) Re: (amb) Fax Auction/Scandalous Business Practices

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1996-11-22 05:47Thad Biggerstaff (idm) Re: (amb) Fax Auction/Scandalous Business Practices
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1996-11-22 05:47Thad Biggerstaff> > Finally, over the course of my bidding in the Takagi auction the thought > > crossed m
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(idm) Re: (amb) Fax Auction/Scandalous Business Practices
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quoted 23 lines Finally, over the course of my bidding in the Takagi auction the thought> > Finally, over the course of my bidding in the Takagi auction the thought > > crossed my mind more than once of the potential for fraud and abuse in > > participating in a 'blind' competitive bid situation on the internet. Wasn't > > it Charles Manson that said "paranoia is a heightened sense of reality." How > > do you know if the bid increases are real or just the 'bidee' pimping the > > price? > > No offense, but who cares? If there's someone who's foolish enough or has a > deep enough pocket to pay more than $100 for one CD, by all means, let them! > The ethical validity of the forces that instigate the final sale become > irrelevant once it's over - no one's forcing anyone to do anything. As long > as the final transaction is entered into voluntarily by both parties I don't > know that one can fault the process. > > On a separate but somewhat related note: > > I've noticed that the crabby responses that auctions (and, in a similar vein, > Thad's recent lists) have evoked are more a reflection of either (a) > resentment that someone actually has the balls to ask a high price and get away > with it, or (b) resentment that they themselves haven't got the dough to meet > the aforementioned high prices, than of anything else. Both are understandable > reactions, but I don't think that ad hominem attacks on the sellers are > in any way warranted.
a couple things to say: 1) amen to the unwarranted attacks. sheesh! ~~~~ 2) one mans high price is another mans low price, and vice versa... as for me selling stuff i bought from one list member to another list member at a couple dollers higher, as someone brought up earlier, this was unintentional. the last thing i have time for is to double and triple check prices back and forth like that- i figure my initial memory of what i buy is 9 times out of 10 correct, and if not then just a couple dollers off *either* way, as another list member kindly pointed out. cmon already anyway- its just a couple bucks, anyhow! Ashok's comments readily apply here. I repeat that my main interest in doing such lists is not to run what would amount to some sloppy ass business, but to enable both me and others to expose themselves to more music out there (and lord knows theres *alot* of it). In the process of this i sometimes make money and sometimes lose money doing so. but all these price hike/conspiracy/business theories are just ridiculous, and posted public like they've been, flat out unfair, again as Ashok (and others!) have kindly pointed out.
quoted 4 lines The ethical validity of the forces that instigate the final sale become> The ethical validity of the forces that instigate the final sale become > irrelevant once it's over - no one's forcing anyone to do anything. As long > as the final transaction is entered into voluntarily by both parties I don't > know that one can fault the process.
could not have said it better, but ive said it before (many a too many time, i might add) all this hassle has made me wonder whether defending oneself against unjust attacks just fuels the fire- i found myself caught between a rock and a hard place- if i did not defend myself, people would no longer trust. if i did, the public attacks further snowballed. the pitfall of public yet, in certain significant ways, inpersonal mailing lists, i suppose.
quoted 1 line Ah, the pungent beauty of wild, unregulated, full-strength capitalism :-)> Ah, the pungent beauty of wild, unregulated, full-strength capitalism :-)
wheeze.. cough! hack! ;) from now on, one page lists and/or an invite to get a bigger list. the requests for the longish lists will likely be unweildly, but it seems i have no choice, since more than one screen seems too big to delete or skip for some of you "louder" folks out there... id do it on a web site if i had a computer better than my measly slow and crippled 386 25mhz tandy ibm compatible (puttering and passing out at every other turn...) one day ill get that xpensive apple... anyhow, all i will hopefully ever have to say on the subject again- -Thad