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Re: (idm) Muslimgauze/Politics

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1996-10-28 19:41Allert Aalders (idm) Muslimgauze/Politics
└─ 1996-10-29 03:48grievous iv - gymkata! Re: (idm) Muslimgauze/Politics
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1996-10-28 19:41Allert AaldersI urge everybody who cares to read this mail in full... two snips from the Muslimgauze/Pol
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Mon, 28 Oct 1996 20:41:35 +0100
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I urge everybody who cares to read this mail in full... two snips from the Muslimgauze/Politics discussion:
quoted 5 lines seems to me there's quite a difference between radical politics and the>seems to me there's quite a difference between radical politics and the >unambiguous hate which decorates musilmgauze's releases...the music is, >for the most part, pretty uninspired...I've never completely understoof >muslimgauze's relationship with anti-semitism but when it comes to >giving >money to racist assholes I tend not to throw caution to the wind.
quoted 3 lines Basicaly there are many tracks with the word 'jihad' in them ;) I know might>Basicaly there are many tracks with the word 'jihad' in them ;) I know might >be missing some great music there but it seems a bit strange to listen to >music from a guy who wants ME D E A D and buried...
No reports yet of a Muslimgauze sleeve stating "Kill all jews" or "Kill all Israelis" What is clear is that he supports the fight of the Palestine people for freedom. I'll let the man speak for himself: From the inlaycard of "Maroon" "Muslimgauze will never condemn any act of direct action, the PLO or Hamas feels is necessary to free all occupied territories. Living in a democracy and able to vote, you cannot judge those unable to do so. When you cannot alter a situation by the vote, an occupation has to be ended by any means those being killed in their own land, feels necessary. Imagine you are a Palestinian, marooned in Gaza, a prisoner in your own land, no vote, a future ? Israel feeding and drinking of your land, what is your answer ? Muslimgauze, 1994" Basically, what Mr Jones is saying is: Who are you to judge a people under occupation ? He has a point. Only *I* condemn all violence. From *either* side. Israelis as well as Palestinians should live in freedom and peace. MHO, Allert -- "No corporation will ever pay a creator enough to sue them successfully." -Dave Sim, creator of Cerebus Allert Aalders - Big Time Concepts - allert@knoware.nl - KoX
1996-10-29 03:48grievous iv - gymkata!jeeeeezuss. (oops, don't want to start another jihad or anyting) i think allert made the p
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Mon, 28 Oct 1996 22:48:56 -0500 (EST)
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jeeeeezuss. (oops, don't want to start another jihad or anyting) i think allert made the point i was originally going to make. that being that the palestinians are in fact, under occupation. how thrilled would you be if a consortium of foreigners decided to move any group of people into your city/state and they then proceeded to force you out of what had previously been your own land? if it doesn't bother you, let's start moving all the "americans" out of formerly indian lands and let the indians have them back. not a bad idea, really. additionally - "return of black september" is an ugly title, surely, but does anyone understand the concept of polemic? and finally, FUCK POLITICS. i'm sick of this bullshit, and i'm going to listen to muslimgauze, death in june and boyd rice until i vomit out of my goddamn ears. [grievous] [sloth code: S++] [http://onramp.uscom.com/~grievous] ["my revelation causes revolution... ] [ ...while my sound system brings noise pollution"]