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1996-10-23 11:29Aca> > Kraftwerk. > > Computer > > World. > > Thirty-four > > Minutes. > > Thirty-eight > > S

From:: Aca <eclaca@lucs-01.novell.leeds.ac.uk>
To:: <owner-idm@hyperreal.com>
Date:: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 11:29:32 GMT0BST
Subject:: (idm) Re: 7 words

quoted 7 lines Kraftwerk.

> > Kraftwerk. > > Computer > > World. > > Thirty-four > > Minutes. > > Thirty-eight > > Seconds.

quoted 6 lines Nobody says a record has to be pushing the 74-80 minute limit. But the medium

> Nobody says a record has to be pushing the 74-80 minute limit. But the medium > costs more for us poor slags (read: end consumers) to buy. If you want to > release a 32 minute album, by all means, go ahead. But don't ask the punters > to pay full price for it. Music costs *far* too much these days as it is. > (The US $9.99 that buys me one lousy import 12" now used to buy me two full > new albums.)

I entirely agree. CDs now cost less than 40 UK pence to manufacture - jewel case, inserts, disc - everything. To then charge upwards of 10 UK Pounds for this is ridiculous, no matter how good the music is. The high prices are stopping many many young people getting into music - they simply can't afford to blow that kind of money on music they've only read or heard about. And that's a shame. I've heard the new RDJ album, and it's fantastic - I'll probably even buy the damn thing. But why couldn't the blank 50 minutes be filled with a selection of the hundreds of hours of unreleased stuff he supposedly has in the vaults ? Or even the sounds of toilets flushing... ? ;-) Aca

1996-10-24 10:56g3On Wed, 23 Oct 1996 11:29:32 GMT0BST, you wrote: >I entirely agree. CDs now cost less than

From:: g3 <g3@bleep.org>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.com>
Date:: Thu, 24 Oct 1996 10:56:41 GMT
Subject:: Re: (idm) Re: 7 words
Reply to:: (idm) Re: 7 words

On Wed, 23 Oct 1996 11:29:32 GMT0BST, you wrote:

quoted 6 lines I entirely agree. CDs now cost less than 40 UK pence to manufacture -

>I entirely agree. CDs now cost less than 40 UK pence to manufacture - >jewel case, inserts, disc - everything. To then charge upwards of 10 >UK Pounds for this is ridiculous, no matter how good the music is. >The high prices are stopping many many young people getting into >music - they simply can't afford to blow that kind of money on music >they've only read or heard about. And that's a shame.

This is a rather naive view of things, admittedly one I held before I started working for Warp. Sure an album may cost 50p to make, but by the time it's been distributed, MCPS has been paid, artwork, marketing, advertising costs have been accounted for, the artist royalty has been paid etc etc, we actually lose money on some albums, never mind singles. This is fact. Sorry. If you want artists and/or us to survive unfortunately this is the situation. If fingers need to be pointed any where, point them at the big chain stores who demand huge discounts, sale or return and then flog 'em at 13.99/14.99 when (good) indie stores sell them at 11.50... g.

1996-10-25 08:40James Skiltong wrote > If fingers need to be pointed any where, point them at the big > chain stores wh

From:: James Skilton <jamess@ftp.com>
To:: idm <idm@hyperreal.com>
Date:: Fri, 25 Oct 96 09:40:01 +0100 (BST)
Subject:: (idm) re: 7 words

g wrote

quoted 4 lines If fingers need to be pointed any where, point them at the big

> If fingers need to be pointed any where, point them at the big > chain stores who demand huge discounts, sale or return and then > flog 'em at 13.99/14.99 when (good) indie stores sell them at > 11.50...

hear hear. bloody rip off merchants. Check the latest "sale" in HMV. Wow these albums are only 10.99! fuck off. J ^ __________ ________.__/_____ _||_/ James Skilton aka Steady J _[]/_____________[.__\____-_ DJ and Party Animal | | Part Time Hedonist |____________________________| Full Time Technohead |__|-' '-|__| jamess@ftp.com Autechre and SKAM discogs: http://subnet.virtual-pc.com/~sk393820/

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