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Aca <eclaca@lucs-01.novell.leeds.ac.uk> :Anyone got the new Stacey Pullen "DJ Kicks" CD ? :The only one I have is the Carl Craig one. Are any of the others :worth buying ? :Reviews / Opinions would be welcome... The only one I have is Claude Young's, which is a blast (what he does with two copies of Maurizio's "M5" has to be heard to be believed.) -d.w.

quoted 1 line Anyone got the new Stacey Pullen "DJ Kicks" CD ?

> Anyone got the new Stacey Pullen "DJ Kicks" CD ?

No, but I will get it if/when I find it.

quoted 2 lines The only one I have is the Carl Craig one. Are any of the others

> The only one I have is the Carl Craig one. Are any of the others > worth buying ?

I also have the CJ Bolland one and it's faboo. Other people have recommended the Kruder and Dorfmeister as well. - Greg

Ciao - Just listening for the first time: DJ Kicks: Stacy Pullen Recommended to IDM-heads. Some lovely atmospheric grooves. Phume, Christian Vogel, Kenny Larkin, Silent Phase, .... 3

I have to step out to agree AND disagree. The music selection is awesome but the mixing is SO poor it's hardly unlistenable. Same goes for the Carl Craig DJ Kicks Mix-great selection-shitty mixing. This actually brings up a question that I've been meaning to ask all you heads: How can a "big name" DJ get away with putting out a "mix" cd that completely utterly totally sucks? How can these dj's consciously place samples or other bits between tracks faded together and call it a mix? How can they mismatch beats? Wouldn't you expect someone who makes great music to know the difference between what sounds good and what is complete crap? I have witnessed some of my favorite producers DJ at parties and mix so poorly it's embarrassing. Any thoughts on this? Any similar observations? Shimone "Zenon M. Feszczak" wrote:

quoted 8 lines Ciao -

> Ciao - > > Just listening for the first time: > DJ Kicks: Stacy Pullen > > Recommended to IDM-heads. > Some lovely atmospheric grooves. > Phume, Christian Vogel, Kenny Larkin, Silent Phase, ....

quoted 3 lines complete crap? I have witnessed some of my favorite producers DJ at

>complete crap? I have witnessed some of my favorite producers DJ at >parties and mix so poorly it's embarrassing. Any thoughts on this? Any >similar observations?

i'm sure someone will step up with exceptions, but invariably producers are terrible dj's. i thought stacy pullen and carl craig were dj's before they were producers, so i can't explain that, but i've been disappointed every single time some promoter has thought that they should get juan atkins or someone, even if he's not playing live. eric

Huh, I've never noticed a problem in the mixing on the Stacey Pullen CD. Maybe we're getting into a subjective debate. I've heard Stacey do sets ranging from adequate to among the best I've ever heard - he overshadowed Derrick May when they played here a few years back. Carl's moved the focus to live performances, and doesn't DJ nearly so much nowadays. Juan's primarily a producer, but he tends to have amazing programming/track selection skill. When it gets down to it, I'd rather listen to a DJ who fumbles a beat from time to time yet plays amazing tracks that a smooth/tricky as fuck technician playing homogenous tracks. Joe At 12:27 PM -0700 10/27/99, eric hill wrote:

quoted 11 lines complete crap? I have witnessed some of my favorite producers DJ at

> >complete crap? I have witnessed some of my favorite producers DJ at > >parties and mix so poorly it's embarrassing. Any thoughts on this? Any > >similar observations? > >i'm sure someone will step up with exceptions, but invariably producers >are terrible dj's. i thought stacy pullen and carl craig were dj's before >they were producers, so i can't explain that, but i've been disappointed >every single time some promoter has thought that they should get juan >atkins or someone, even if he's not playing live. > >eric

I don't understand what anyone could find wrong with the mixing on Stacey Pullen's DJ kicks cd...in fact, the cd was admittedly perfected/enhanced with studio effects. The Carl Craig cd isn't really beatmixed...its simply segued together. The tracks rock, indeed, but I can definitely see people having issues with Craig's DJing on that cd. In my opinion, though, if one is going to pan any of the DJ Kicks CDs, my choice would be the first one: CJ Bolland's mix. Now, that cd is not mixed well, at all...Bolland definitely pulls off some shaky mixes that are really apparent because most of the stuff he played was pretty hard techno....its much more difficult to get away with shaky mixing when yer playin' the harder stuff. Another thing, I understand that Stacey Pullen has plans on doing another mix cd sometime next year hopefully, once he finishes all the work on his album for Virgin/Science/Astralwerks. Anyone else have any info on this? bc

quoted 5 lines I don't understand what anyone could find wrong with the mixing on Stacey

>I don't understand what anyone could find wrong with the mixing on Stacey >Pullen's DJ kicks cd...in fact, the cd was admittedly perfected/enhanced >with studio effects. The Carl Craig cd isn't really beatmixed...its simply >segued together. The tracks rock, indeed, but I can definitely see people >having issues with Craig's DJing on that cd.

heh, well it would call in to question why they call it "DJ" kicks, vs. "records kick" or something a little closer to the facts. the andrea parker cd comes to mind as well, though i hate to have to mention it. eric