Mark,
Goethe said a lot of things, most of which were uttered, I believe, in a thick
almost impenetrable German accent, possibly accounting for the appalling
axiomatic banality of many of his thoughts as (mis)represented today.
I personally would say that "the trick" referred to below, where acts of
"creation" are concerned, is actually not so much to think of what has been
thought of before again, but rather to draw artfully on previous thought(s),
remaking and remodelling in the act of conception an apparently novel
entity. This is the essence of innovation. It seems to me that we are
essentially in agreement here. My point was this:
Underworld may well have put together a Groovy Toon or two in their time,
but to claim Pioneer status for them - as the original poster did - is
overstating the case for their creativity and "originality" (loosely defined).
To allude to the language of your "eternal rule" (source not acknowledged),
it would appear to me that Underworld may be seen as Jackdaws of the
idm scene but they are far from being Artful Dodgers.
alan/beyondthebristolsound
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On Sun, 22 Sep 1996 14:13:32 -0500 (CDT) Mark Kolmar wrote:
quoted 15 lines I think Goethe said that everything has been thought of before -- the
> I think Goethe said that everything has been thought of before -- the
> trick is to think of it again. The other eternal rule that comes into
> play is music is based on theft (not borrowing, if done right it's theft)
> and recombination of previously-used elements.
>
> --Mark
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> http://www.xnet.com/~mkolmar/BurningRome
>
> "The fact their parents have separated doesn't disturb the children. They
> go on looking at television. How old should they be before they smoke
> marijuana? No one seems to know." -- John Cage
>
> On Sun, 22 Sep 1996, A.R. Lockett wrote:
> > all they were essentially doing was coll-ecl-ecting various strands in
the
quoted 2 lines air at the time
> > air at the time
> >
(techno/electro/breakbeat/house/dub/cheese/biscuits/sub-TearsforFears
quoted 4 lines "singing" . . . ) and cobbling it together into a sonic pizza.
> > "singing" . . . ) and cobbling it together into a sonic pizza.
> >
> > Long on crust, short on topping . . .
>