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(idm) What is the "Underground"?

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1996-08-28 23:36John Bus (idm) What is the "Underground"?
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1996-08-28 23:36John BusHi, >You said it so loud and so clear! THIS is what I fear. I've been >reading the debate
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(idm) What is the "Underground"?
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Hi,
quoted 11 lines You said it so loud and so clear! THIS is what I fear. I've been>You said it so loud and so clear! THIS is what I fear. I've been >reading the debate over keeping music underground and I've been >meaning to respond but haven't found (taken) the time to respond >until now. > >I fear for the future. While I hear that more exposure will allow >some of our favourite musicians to perhpas eat better, I know, KNOW >that if corporate commandos comes after 'our' music (yes it is our >music, dammit) that we shall have to sit back and watch with >increasing horror as everything we (I) hold dear is bastardized, >commercialized and raped.
quoted 2 lines If there were just one person to whom I could say "please...please>If there were just one person to whom I could say "please...please >don't take my music..."...
IMHO I find that this attitude always comes from the ones who don't make the music. Firstly i'd like to say you don't give enough credit to your favourite musicians... do you honestly think Mad Mike, Aphex Twin, Carl Craig, etc are going to allow themselves to be "bastardized, commercialized and raped" (as you so eloquently put it) or that their music will change dramatically just because they get a little more exposure??! Secondly I make the basic proposition that the fact that they have made video-clips for the tracks in question means that they would like them played on tv. Or do you assume they made them for themselves to watch??! Thirdly what is the "underground"? I'm sure many people's definition (if they thought about it) wouldn't include Aphex Twin any more... as he is too well known, sells heaps of records, had a deal with a major for the release of SAW II, etc all stuff that would place him well above the "underground". Same for Paradinas and so on... yet they still release such "left of centre" records as _Expert Knob Twiddlers_. I suggest people stop worrying about the so called "underground" nature of this music and just start listening to the music itself. ObIDM: There is track on The Black Dog's "Music for Adverts..." that to these ears seems to borrow the bassline (albeit mutated somewhat) from _Pump Up the Volume_ by MARRS. Wish I knew which track, but i'm at work now and hence no cd to listen to and check. Can anybody confirm or just tell me what I always expected... i'm going crazy. :) Regards, John