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2000-02-07 12:55Klint Dixon Re: (idm) vibert/cole/muziq show
2000-02-07 22:39Kent williams (idm) vibert/cole/muziq show
2000-02-07 22:48Ernesto Ikerd Re: (idm) vibert/cole/muziq show
└─ 2000-02-08 01:55Kent williams Re: (idm) vibert/cole/muziq show
2000-02-07 23:03Andrew Kohnen Re: (idm) vibert/cole/muziq show
2000-02-08 02:10zachary Re: (idm) vibert/cole/muziq show
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2000-02-07 12:55Klint Dixon: At any rate it was a top notch night for me, and I'd recommend anyone : who can to check
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: At any rate it was a top notch night for me, and I'd recommend anyone : who can to check out the remaining dates on the tour: : : Feb 9 -- Lola's in Portland OR : Feb 10 - El Rey Los Angeles : Feb 11 - Bimbo's San Francisco : Feb 12 - Nation@I-SPY Seattle : : Is it just me or is this the most ass backwards way to tour : the west coast? that is funny. never looked at the schedule. the pdx show is at the crystal ballroom, anybody else going besides me? i guess im lucky, my drive is only 6 hours round trip. kd. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2000-02-07 22:39Kent williamsVibert/Cole/Muziq The Quest Minneapolis 2/6/0 Urk, was a two hour show worth 10 hrs in the
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Mon, 7 Feb 2000 16:39:28 -0600 (CST)
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Vibert/Cole/Muziq The Quest Minneapolis 2/6/0 Urk, was a two hour show worth 10 hrs in the car? Maybe I'm strange but yes -- seeing Muziq live is something I've wanted to do for about eight years. Vibert and Cole opened up, presenting about a 45 minute set of sampler & pedal steel madness. I've not heard the CD yet -- based on what I saw it is potentially an interesting piece of work. But their set seemed really odd -- more like Cole jamming over the top of Vibert's tracks, without much in the way of interplay. A couple of tracks really did gel, and show some of Vibert's programming working around the pedal steel part, which pointed to possibilities of this collaboration that weren't otherwise realized. The most successful material was the more down-tempo tracks -- a couple of 4 to the floor tracks seemed especially odd and not very engaging. Another oddity was Vibert's use of a Roland TB303, which meshed with his sampler based tracks even worse than the steel guitar. After a short break, Muziq climbed behind his gear and started things up. His set was a mix of tracks from "Royal Astronomy" and "Lunatic Harness" which he molded and reshaped with the mixer, effects, and apparently some sort of strange filtering device. I don't know what reaction he's got elsewhere, but the Minneapolis crowd was well up for it, and it seemed exceeding strange to hear people whoop and holler for tracks after 3 notes of the opening bassline. He played a couple of the string based tracks from Royal Astronomy which were enhanced/mutilated into a combination of their original sweet neo-classical melodies and roughening effects. Towards the end of the set he played a new track more in the vein of his recent D&B efforts, but containing a new, lovely melodic element -- it really seemed to have a real organic meshing of his melodic and rhythmic impulse. Then to top things off he delivered a blistering version of "hard love" from his Kid Spatula/Jega split 12", and two more tracks in the noise-core-breaks vein. These tracks, to me, were absolutely sublime even as they were sonically punishing. I can see many fans of his more melodic material absolutely hating these tracks, but they were to me his way of taking the whole dark noise genre to the next level. It was hilarious watching people trying to dance to these tracks -- they lurched back and forth between 200bpm distorted beats and short interludes of crazy beatless noise. Heads would start nodding manically only to pause in puzzlement when the beat fell apart. I was disappointed with the venue for a couple of reasons -- for one they set them up in a little vestibule in what amounted to a broad hallway, upstairs from the main dance floor. For another, there was apparently no front-of-house sound at all -- Muziq and Vibert were mixing with monitors, and their mix was going out unmodified to the house speakers. Anyone who's worked on live electronic music knows that things sound a lot nicer if there's a sympathetic soundman riding the mix from a vantage point where he can actually hear the house sound. The whole mix seemd rather harsh on the high end and muddy in the midrange, and under-compressed besides -- occasional 'sharp-stick-in-the-ear' outbursts marred the performances. As far as stage presence, there really was none. Vibert occasionally looked up with a smile for the crowd, and demonstrated his ability to smoke a joint without ever apparently exhaling. Paradinas looked even more gaunt and pale than his publicity pics, and seemed to actively avoid any acknowledgement of the audience. He was pretty busy onstage juggling his mix, but as far as acknowlegement, all the crowd got was a wave and a half smile as he fled back stage. I managed to barge backstage and thank him for the show, and especially for the noise tracks at the end, and he was aware of our local noise heros from Drop Bass, and seemed mildly pleased to have those tracks singled out. But on the whole the whole business of performing in public seemed a bit of a trial. At any rate it was a top notch night for me, and I'd recommend anyone who can to check out the remaining dates on the tour: Feb 9 -- Lola's in Portland OR Feb 10 - El Rey Los Angeles Feb 11 - Bimbo's San Francisco Feb 12 - Nation@I-SPY Seattle Is it just me or is this the most ass backwards way to tour the west coast? kent williams -- kent@avalon.net --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2000-02-07 22:48Ernesto Ikerd>I managed to barge backstage and thank him for the show, and especially >for the noise tr
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quoted 3 lines I managed to barge backstage and thank him for the show, and especially>I managed to barge backstage and thank him for the show, and especially >for the noise tracks at the end, and he was aware of our local noise >heros from Drop Bass
Um, yeah Kent, good summary of the show but, IDMers wanna know - When you met him, Was he *NICE* ?? ;) ernie Ernesto Ikerd, (817) 763-4795 Company Graphics, Dept 17, MZ-4202 Lockheed Martin Aeronautics Company Fort Worth, Texas --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2000-02-08 01:55Kent williamsOn Mon, 7 Feb 2000, Ernesto Ikerd wrote: > >I managed to barge backstage and thank him for
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On Mon, 7 Feb 2000, Ernesto Ikerd wrote:
quoted 7 lines I managed to barge backstage and thank him for the show, and especially> >I managed to barge backstage and thank him for the show, and especially > >for the noise tracks at the end, and he was aware of our local noise > >heros from Drop Bass > > Um, yeah Kent, good summary of the show but, IDMers wanna know - > When you met him, Was he *NICE* ?? >
I spent roughly 90 seconds talking to him -- he was very cordial, but softspoken. I did not form a lasting opinion of him has a person, other than he seems rather shy. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2000-02-07 23:03Andrew Kohnendamned 21 and over shows. ebola >From: Kent williams <kent@avalon.net> >To: iduhntuhbelluh
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damned 21 and over shows. ebola
quoted 100 lines From: Kent williams <kent@avalon.net>>From: Kent williams <kent@avalon.net> >To: iduhntuhbelluhbiguhbent duhbance muhbusuhbic <idm@hyperreal.org> >Subject: (idm) vibert/cole/muziq show >Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 16:39:28 -0600 (CST) > >Vibert/Cole/Muziq The Quest Minneapolis 2/6/0 > >Urk, was a two hour show worth 10 hrs in the car? Maybe I'm strange but >yes -- seeing Muziq live is something I've wanted to do for about eight >years. > >Vibert and Cole opened up, presenting about a 45 minute set of sampler >& pedal steel madness. I've not heard the CD yet -- based on what I saw >it is potentially an interesting piece of work. But their set seemed >really odd -- more like Cole jamming over the top of Vibert's tracks, >without >much in the way of interplay. A couple of tracks really did gel, and show >some of Vibert's programming working around the pedal steel part, which >pointed >to possibilities of this collaboration that weren't otherwise realized. > >The most successful material was the more down-tempo tracks -- a couple >of 4 to the floor tracks seemed especially odd and not very engaging. >Another >oddity was Vibert's use of a Roland TB303, which meshed with his sampler >based tracks even worse than the steel guitar. > >After a short break, Muziq climbed behind his gear and started things up. >His set was a mix of tracks from "Royal Astronomy" and "Lunatic Harness" >which he molded and reshaped with the mixer, effects, and apparently some >sort of strange filtering device. I don't know what reaction he's got >elsewhere, but the Minneapolis crowd was well up for it, and it seemed >exceeding strange to hear people whoop and holler for tracks after 3 notes >of the opening bassline. He played a couple of the string based tracks >from Royal Astronomy which were enhanced/mutilated into a combination >of their original sweet neo-classical melodies and roughening effects. > >Towards the end of the set he played a new track more in the vein of >his recent D&B efforts, but containing a new, lovely melodic element -- it >really seemed to have a real organic meshing of his melodic and rhythmic >impulse. Then to top things off he delivered a blistering version of >"hard love" from his Kid Spatula/Jega split 12", and two more tracks >in the noise-core-breaks vein. These tracks, to me, were absolutely sublime >even as they were sonically punishing. I can see many fans of his more >melodic material absolutely hating these tracks, but they were to me >his way of taking the whole dark noise genre to the next level. > >It was hilarious watching people trying to dance to these tracks -- they >lurched back and forth between 200bpm distorted beats and short interludes >of crazy beatless noise. Heads would start nodding manically only to pause >in puzzlement when the beat fell apart. > >I was disappointed with the venue for a couple of reasons -- for one >they set them up in a little vestibule in what amounted to a broad >hallway, upstairs from the main dance floor. For another, there was >apparently no front-of-house sound at all -- Muziq and Vibert were mixing >with monitors, and their mix was going out unmodified to the house >speakers. >Anyone who's worked on live electronic music knows that things sound a lot >nicer if there's a sympathetic soundman riding the mix from a vantage >point where he can actually hear the house sound. The whole mix seemd >rather harsh on the high end and muddy in the midrange, and >under-compressed >besides -- occasional 'sharp-stick-in-the-ear' outbursts marred the >performances. > >As far as stage presence, there really was none. Vibert occasionally >looked up with a smile for the crowd, and demonstrated his ability to >smoke a joint without ever apparently exhaling. Paradinas looked even >more gaunt and pale than his publicity pics, and seemed to actively avoid >any acknowledgement of the audience. He was pretty busy onstage juggling >his mix, but as far as acknowlegement, all the crowd got was a wave and >a half smile as he fled back stage. > >I managed to barge backstage and thank him for the show, and especially >for the noise tracks at the end, and he was aware of our local noise >heros from Drop Bass, and seemed mildly pleased to have those tracks >singled out. But on the whole the whole business of performing in public >seemed a bit of a trial. > >At any rate it was a top notch night for me, and I'd recommend anyone >who can to check out the remaining dates on the tour: > >Feb 9 -- Lola's in Portland OR >Feb 10 - El Rey Los Angeles >Feb 11 - Bimbo's San Francisco >Feb 12 - Nation@I-SPY Seattle > >Is it just me or is this the most ass backwards way to tour >the west coast? > > > >kent williams -- kent@avalon.net > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >
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2000-02-08 02:10zacharyi met vibert at the other music (nyc) paradinas in-store, and i have to say that guy was R
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i met vibert at the other music (nyc) paradinas in-store, and i have to say that guy was REAL nice. he said "wicked" a lot. i'm sorry- is that who we are talking about??? zachary zim200is7.nyu.edu
quoted 13 lines On Mon, 7 Feb 2000, Ernesto Ikerd wrote:>On Mon, 7 Feb 2000, Ernesto Ikerd wrote: > >> >I managed to barge backstage and thank him for the show, and especially >> >for the noise tracks at the end, and he was aware of our local noise >> >heros from Drop Bass >> >> Um, yeah Kent, good summary of the show but, IDMers wanna know - >> When you met him, Was he *NICE* ?? >> >I spent roughly 90 seconds talking to him -- he was very cordial, but >softspoken. I did not form a lasting opinion of him has a person, other >than he seems rather shy. >
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