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1996-07-25 08:52Fresh/Gonzi Merchan Re: (idm) Darkside
1996-07-25 13:29Erkki Rautio (idm) Darkside
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1996-07-25 08:52Fresh/Gonzi Merchan>Going back to Star Wars, the darkside is what makes Darth Vader >the key character in the
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quoted 5 lines Going back to Star Wars, the darkside is what makes Darth Vader>Going back to Star Wars, the darkside is what makes Darth Vader >the key character in the trilogy. Note that the darkside is *not* >the same as the Empire: Darth is as much an outsider from the >Empire's military machine as he is from the Rebel Federation. >
Actually the Rebellion is an Alliance of independent factions (Mon Calamari, Bothans, etc.), not a Federation. hehe. /""'' /"'RESH Live and Direct from the G-Spot Orange County, California, USA
1996-07-25 13:29Erkki RautioHere's an interesting text on jungle's "Darkside" (and the Star Wars trilogy :) Stevvi of
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Here's an interesting text on jungle's "Darkside" (and the Star Wars trilogy :) Stevvi of Circuit 8 pointed to me from the UK-Dance list; I thought it would be some interesting food for thought for IDMers too. Apologies however that I can't give you the credits for the original writer, whoever s/he was... Well, let it be said that basically I agree with what the guy/gal says here, but I'd also like to emphasize the "energy" part of music. Basically all good music is something to me that will give me the *energy*, whether I can go through my negative, aggressive,"dark" side through it (yes, the "cathartic" experience, at least for me), or if it only gives me energy through raising purely positive, good, "light" feelings in me. So the both approaches work for me, the other in some situations better than the other. What do you think of this? -ER ----- [Forwarded text] ----- So, what exactly is the darkside? A word (obviously). A word that's bubbled up over the past couple of years to describe something that can't be expressed otherwise. Moreover, a word that (in true junglist style) has been *sampled* from an outside source, ie Star Wars. There is no formal definition of "darkside": it's a word that junglists have picked up on because it captures something intangible - something that could be described as the essence of jungle, or the essence of all truly great music. Here's a sketch of what it means to me - note that I'm not claiming any authority for my interpretation of the word, just offering up one possible way of looking at things. Going back to Star Wars, the darkside is what makes Darth Vader the key character in the trilogy. Note that the darkside is *not* the same as the Empire: Darth is as much an outsider from the Empire's military machine as he is from the Rebel Federation. Darth towers above the other characters in Star Wars. He is an outcast from both the Jedi Knights and the Empire. He follows his own path, acts in accordance to his own code of honour, reports to no-one. His one loyalty is to the Emperor - and even that is temporary, severed by the end of the trilogy. Above all, Darth is ambiguous, beyond good and evil. Despite being superficially a bad guy, you have nothing but respect and awe for him. He is dedicated. He is intense. He does not compromise. To me, the darkside in jungle is about that intensity. Darkness doesn't simply mean "moodiness" or "aggression" or "urban paranoia". Sure, many dark trax are moody, paranoid etc - but the darkness can also be uplifting and joyous. It's the intensity that matters, the attitude. Darkness is not about where you come from or where you're going, but how you get there. Another parallel: darkside jungle is always ambiguous. Take the moodiest, most paranoid jungle trax - there's always a flipside, a subtle contradiction built in. I remember the first time I heard Zinc's "Super Sharp Shooter" (spun by Hype at the late lamented Paradise): the crowd went mental, people were jumping up and down for joy, turning to random strangers and chatting excitedly to them, grinning stupidly at each other. The track itself might seem moody and aggressive, but the reaction was everything you'd expect from a cheesy luvved-up rave anthem. There's an self-awareness that goes on in jungle, a tacit understanding that words/sounds don't necessarily mean what they say. (This, by the way, was what I was getting at a few weeks ago when I was going on about the "abstract" nature of darkside jungle.) Conversely, the most uplifting and celebratory jungle tunes always have a strain of melancholy built into them (eg Ray Keith's "Sing Time" or Omni Trio's "Thru The Vibe"). This is what marks out "happy-dark" jungle (and the deepest darkest house) from much of the rest of the dance scene. The happiness is real, solid, not some fake drugged-up plur cliche. So, turning to the flame war brewing between Stuart B and Tony Tone Def: chill out, guys - you're *both* right. Specifically, Stuart says (UKD 1579):
quoted 3 lines One of the defining characteristics of jungle/d&b is its darkness.> One of the defining characteristics of jungle/d&b is its darkness. > Jungle's not just about fast break beats; take away the darkside, > and you ain't got jungle.
And Tony counters (UKD 1580):
quoted 6 lines I have taken [friends] to a Jungle only event and they have been> I have taken [friends] to a Jungle only event and they have been > amazed that it was nothing like they had expected. Uplifting Amen > breaks that just make want to you dance with other people there who > are appreciating the music for what it is. Many of my friends have > come away saying that the atmosphere had outdone even the best HH > events that they had been to for excitement and good vibes.
There's no contradiction here unless you take the narrow attitude that darkness = negative/moody/aggressive/paranoid. I don't think that's what darkness is about, and that's why I'm quite happy to describe certain trax as both dark *and* uplifting/exciting/joyous/happy. I realise much of what I've said appears self-contradictory and a bit tripped-out ... but listen to a track like Scorpio's "My Style From The Darkside" and you'll begin to catch my drift. Even better, head to Lee Billingham's party on 3 August and see it for yourself at first hand. ----- [End of forwarded text] ----- oNNow: Plug - Drum'n'Bass For Papa e k k u i r r a t i o aka e r k k i r a u t i o <a href="http://www.uta.fi/~trerra/">pHinnWeb</a>