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1996-07-16 04:57HUNG LIKE A BULL.I think an important thing to consider when debating the possibilities of IDM becoming mai

From:: HUNG LIKE A BULL. <GHHORNE@DELTA.IS.TCU.EDU>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.com>
Date:: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 23:57:46 -0500 (CDT)
Subject:: (idm) Keeping music undaground.

I think an important thing to consider when debating the possibilities of IDM becoming mainstream is the fact that most Americans think techno is just a load of cock. I can't say what sort of number equals 'most Americans,' but from my experience, it's great. There's a stigma attached to 'our' music; it's repetitive, it belongs only in gay clubs, it's not real music since it's composed on computers. Any visit to alt.music.techno can prove this. THe outside flames containing the above taunts happen constantly. I've spent the last year in North Texas. I've met only a handful of people who listen to IDM and fewer who actually appreciate it. A few wacky videos on MTV and some blurbs in Details isn't going to hurt.

1996-07-16 09:59William L SamuelsOn Mon, 15 Jul 1996, HUNG LIKE A BULL. wrote: > I think an important thing to consider whe

From:: William L Samuels <wls@U.Arizona.EDU>
To:: HUNG LIKE A BULL. <GHHORNE@DELTA.IS.TCU.EDU>
Cc:: <idm@hyperreal.com>
Date:: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 02:59:41 -0700 (MST)
Subject:: Re: (idm) Keeping music undaground.
Reply to:: (idm) Keeping music undaground.

On Mon, 15 Jul 1996, HUNG LIKE A BULL. wrote:

quoted 7 lines I think an important thing to consider when debating the possibilities of IDM

> I think an important thing to consider when debating the possibilities of IDM > becoming mainstream is the fact that most Americans think techno is just a load > of cock. I can't say what sort of number equals 'most Americans,' but from my > experience, it's great. There's a stigma attached to 'our' music; it's > repetitive, it belongs only in gay clubs, it's not real music since it's > composed on computers. Any visit to alt.music.techno can prove this. THe > outside flames containing the above taunts happen constantly.

Your absolutely right. Most Americans seem to think that if there aren't any guitars or vocals that it sucks. I dj at a club and it seems to bother a lot of people if there aren't any vocals. I personally think that is a major plus to the songs. Top 40 and hard rock has reigned so long in the US, it will take a while before the mainstream can open up to IDM type music. One thing that disgusts me, is when some will come up to me and say "hey I'm from Detroit can you play something for me, ... uh what about some rock n roll like Lita Ford or Aerosmith" (this has happened to me twice). I would hope that some one from Detroit would request some Carl Craig or Claude Young or something like that. Mtv has rotted the minds of the mainstream public.

1996-07-18 15:15Dave WalkerWilliam L Samuels <wls@U.Arizona.EDU> said: :"hey I'm from Detroit can you play something

From:: Dave Walker <marmoset@mich.com>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.com>
Date:: 18 Jul 96 11:15:05 -0400
Subject:: Re: (idm) Keeping music undaground.

William L Samuels <wls@U.Arizona.EDU> said: :"hey I'm from Detroit can you play something for me, ... uh what about :some rock n roll like Lita Ford or Aerosmith" (this has happened to me :twice). I would hope that some one from Detroit would request some Carl :Craig or Claude Young or something like that. Mtv has rotted the minds of :the mainstream public. The audience for techno in the Detroit area is a very small subculture, a few thousand people in a metropolitan area of almost 4 million. I'm sure others can produce comparable numbers for their cities. KISS sold out Tiger Stadium here. Statistically, the likelyhood of your meeting a techno-loving Detroiter in Arizona is infintesimal -- Lita Ford and Aerosmith sell a lot more records here, and get a lot more airplay. -d.w. live from cubal ligation now reading: a stack of New Yorker magazine I'm trying to catch up on...

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