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1996-07-01 11:44William L Samuels Re: (idm) Chemical Brothers as MBM deconstructionists (fwd)
└─ 1996-07-01 12:24James Skilton (idm) Empirion: Re: MBM deconstructionists
├─ 1996-07-01 12:42William L Samuels Re: (idm) Empirion: Re: MBM deconstructionists
└─ 1996-07-01 15:45Erkki Rautio Re: (idm) Empirion: Re: MBM deconstructionists
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1996-07-01 11:44William L SamuelsOn Sun, 30 Jun 1996, Eric Frans response Greg Earle: > I think calling Meat Beat Manifesto
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On Sun, 30 Jun 1996, Eric Frans response Greg Earle:
quoted 21 lines I think calling Meat Beat Manifesto's sound 'horrible' is a little much.> I think calling Meat Beat Manifesto's sound 'horrible' is a little much. > Sure they broke out with a live drum kit, sax, and guitar, but you've got > to admit that the drummer was the shit (in a good shit way 8) ), though. > His drum breaks fit in perfectly with the electronic drum tracks and his > timing was right on IMO. Did you catch the one section of the set > where there was an extended drum track with only low Moog-like bass > over the top? That was some serious Meat Beat funk! (If anyone knows > what the hell I'm talking about here, was that a new cut because I didn't > recognize it from the new double album?). Plus it was kind of cool to > here a more improvisational feel to a lot the Meat Beat classics like > Helter Skelter and Radio Babylon. I have to agree with you though about > the guitar and sax, since I could barely even hear those two instruments > in the mix. Jack's vocals did drop out every once in awhile, but they > definitely were loud enough during quite a bit ot the show. You forgot > to mention the addition of the theremin also. I thought that guy in the > back controlling the keyboards and the theremin did a nice job of adding > those great sci-fi sounds into the mix. I'm a big Meat Beat Manifesto fan > myself and it might have been nice to hear some of the tracks from the new > 2nd disc, but I don't think the lack of those songs and the addition of > 'real' instruments made for a 'horrible' set. At least they were up for > trying something new.
I have to agree that MBM was definitely not horrible, and the drummer was really good. This was my first time seeing Meat Beat perform, and I think they did a really good job. I think that having the live drummer and guitarist was kind of cool. The drummer was solid! Perhaps, after years of using drum machines, Jack decided to experiment a little with his live performance. I will admit the highlight of his performance was when he played old favorites like Helter Skelter, and God O.D. At one point it in the show I could of swore that Jack was singing part of Ashes to Ashes by David Bowie, that was a big surprise. Getting back to live drumming, I read that Orbital taped a friend drumming so that they could sample and use it on their new album. I don't know what kind of drum machine they use, maybe they are bore with it's sounds or they wanted a different kind of drum sound then they have electronically. For the MBM fans, check out Empirion's - Narcotic Influence (Meat Beat Remix) I gave it a quick listen, and really liked it. Just got a promo of it.
1996-07-01 12:24James SkiltonWilliam L Samuels wrote on Mon, 01 Jul 96 12:44:03 BST : > For the MBM fans, check out Emp
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William L Samuels wrote on Mon, 01 Jul 96 12:44:03 BST :
quoted 2 lines For the MBM fans, check out Empirion's - Narcotic Influence (Meat Beat Remix)> For the MBM fans, check out Empirion's - Narcotic Influence (Meat Beat Remix) > I gave it a quick listen, and really liked it. Just got a promo of it.
This can also be found on a 7" single included in the new Jockey Slut. Made me think "this sounds a lot like the Chemical Brothers" :-) Let's not go round _that_ loop again. For those who already own the original mix, this special is a better bet than the commercial 12" #1, as you get a free mag and extra b-side track "Ciao" for less readies than the 12". btw the Empirion commercial release is as follows (to clarify) 12" #1 Original Mix MBM Mix 12" #2 Dave Clarke Mix Secret Knowledge Mix CD All 4 mixes (I think) J ^ __________ ________.__/_____ _||_/ James Skilton aka Steady J _[]/_____________[.__\____-_ DJ and Party Animal | Ae discog on-line now! | Part Time Hedonist |____________________________| Full Time Technohead |__|-' '-|__| Steady-J@Firefox.co.uk http://subnet.virtual-pc.com/~sk393820/
1996-07-01 12:42William L SamuelsOn Mon, 1 Jul 1996, James Skilton wrote: > William L Samuels wrote on Mon, 01 Jul 96 12:44
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Mon, 1 Jul 1996 05:42:22 -0700 (MST)
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On Mon, 1 Jul 1996, James Skilton wrote:
quoted 23 lines William L Samuels wrote on Mon, 01 Jul 96 12:44:03 BST :> William L Samuels wrote on Mon, 01 Jul 96 12:44:03 BST : > > > For the MBM fans, check out Empirion's - Narcotic Influence (Meat Beat Remix) > > I gave it a quick listen, and really liked it. Just got a promo of it. > > This can also be found on a 7" single included in the new Jockey Slut. Made > me think "this sounds a lot like the Chemical Brothers" :-) Let's not go round > _that_ loop again. > For those who already own the original mix, this special is a better bet than > the commercial 12" #1, as you get a free mag and extra b-side track "Ciao" for > less readies than the 12". > btw the Empirion commercial release is as follows (to clarify) > > 12" #1 > Original Mix > MBM Mix > > 12" #2 > Dave Clarke Mix > Secret Knowledge Mix > > CD > All 4 mixes (I think)
For those that are curious, I thought that the Meat Beat Manifesto was the best mix (in case you are buying it on vinyl, since there are 2 parts). The Dave Clarke remix is good, but I expected a little more from him. I was just about to order that Jockey Slut, is it a good issue?
1996-07-01 15:45Erkki Rautio> > For the MBM fans, check out Empirion's - Narcotic Influence > > (Meat Beat Remix) > >
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quoted 7 lines For the MBM fans, check out Empirion's - Narcotic Influence> > For the MBM fans, check out Empirion's - Narcotic Influence > > (Meat Beat Remix) > > I gave it a quick listen, and really liked it. Just got a promo of it. > > This can also be found on a 7" single included in the new Jockey Slut. Made > me think "this sounds a lot like the Chemical Brothers" :-) Let's not go > round _that_ loop again.
I also got this mix and really liked it very much, even better than Empirion's original... I wonder if the Dave Clarke mix on the second 12" is any good? k u r i e r o t i k a a.k.a. e r k k i r a u t i o <a href="http://www.uta.fi/~trerra/">pHinnWeb</a>