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Re: (idm) Bent Crayon sucks. RE: (idm) Is Forced Exposure dead?

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2000-02-05 08:18joe mull Re: (idm) Is Forced Exposure dead?
└─ 2000-03-07 11:18Konstantin Minko (idm) Bent Crayon sucks. RE: (idm) Is Forced Exposure dead?
2000-02-05 12:4172.03.24 161.70 Re: (idm) Bent Crayon sucks. RE: (idm) Is Forced Exposure dead?
2000-02-05 19:41greg davis Re: (idm) Bent Crayon sucks. RE: (idm) Is Forced Exposure dead?
2000-02-06 04:27Re: (idm) Bent Crayon sucks. RE: (idm) Is Forced Exposure dead?
└─ 2000-03-09 08:25Konstantin Minko RE: (idm) Bent Crayon sucks. RE: (idm) Is Forced Exposure dead?
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2000-02-05 08:18joe mull>I've been trying to email them for more than a month about my suspended >order but got no
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quoted 3 lines I've been trying to email them for more than a month about my suspended>I've been trying to email them for more than a month about my suspended >order but got nothing at all in response. Anyone knows their telephone >number?
i think FE/jimmy et al are just dead to retail customer service - at least that's how their acting. i've bought a few hundred releases from them in the early 90s (my avant/post rock days) with no problems. of course there were no maintenance issues they had to deal w/ from me as a customer though. when i tried _one_ order from them since they began online catalogs, i did not receive the merchandise (UPS). it appears that since UPS had record of delivery receipt (signed post-it auth for drop ship), FE chose to believe UPS and not the me, customer. This was an erroneous and very non-customer friendly assumption. FE's assumption, in accordance with non-replies and unlisted contact information for retail customers forces me to assume their business focus is centered on distribution first, and desperate retail customers last. so i disputed my credit card charge, my credit card bank probly ate the $50, and FE considered no loss for this transaction. but i will never buy from FE again until they provide me with a response, specifically an explanation. until then i'm going to assume jimmy does not appreciate my business and i will stick with the old faithfuls (we all know who they are, look at any digest week's posts) once again, FE, i am asking (now publicly) you to explain what's happenning here, why is this trend continuing. np hrvatski sirrus minor agent mully icq 33102742 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2000-03-07 11:18Konstantin MinkoI begin to believe it is general way of behaviour of the online shops. I've had similar ex
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Tue, 7 Mar 2000 14:18:14 +0300
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(idm) Bent Crayon sucks. RE: (idm) Is Forced Exposure dead?
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I begin to believe it is general way of behaviour of the online shops. I've had similar experience with Bent Crayon. I ordered from them in September 4 CDs. They charged my Visa for $64 but the cds never arrived. My post office says they did not receive it, bent crayon says their post office sent it. No one is guilty, except small matter - I still do not have my cds. I asked them why they specifically charged me for insurance if they just turned their backs on me when the problem occured but got no response until present day. Fuck capitalistst! Angry Alien np. L@N btw. Forced Exposure charged me for insurance as well and did not respond to my questions about meaning of this insurance as well. I just have to hope this time the package arrives.
quoted 43 lines I've been trying to email them for more than a month about my suspended> > >I've been trying to email them for more than a month about my suspended > >order but got nothing at all in response. Anyone knows their telephone > >number? > > i think FE/jimmy et al are just dead to retail customer service > - at least > that's how their acting. > i've bought a few hundred releases from them in the early 90s (my > avant/post > rock days) with no problems. of course there were no maintenance issues > they had to deal w/ from me as a customer though. > > when i tried _one_ order from them since they began online catalogs, i did > not receive the merchandise (UPS). > it appears that since UPS had record of delivery receipt (signed post-it > auth for drop ship), FE chose to believe UPS and not the me, > customer. This > was an erroneous and very non-customer friendly assumption. > > FE's assumption, in accordance with non-replies and unlisted contact > information for retail customers forces me to assume their business focus > is centered on distribution first, and desperate retail customers last. > > so i disputed my credit card charge, my credit card bank probly > ate the $50, > and FE considered no loss for this transaction. but i will never buy from > FE again until they provide me with a response, specifically an > explanation. > until then i'm going to assume jimmy does not appreciate my business and i > will stick with the old faithfuls (we all know who they are, look at any > digest week's posts) > > once again, FE, i am asking (now publicly) you to explain what's > happenning > here, why is this trend continuing. > > np hrvatski sirrus minor > > agent mully > icq 33102742 > >
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2000-02-05 12:4172.03.24 161.70Strange ... I ordered several times from Forced Exposure and never had any problems whatso
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Sat, 5 Feb 2000 13:41:19 +0100
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Re: (idm) Bent Crayon sucks. RE: (idm) Is Forced Exposure dead?
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Strange ... I ordered several times from Forced Exposure and never had any problems whatsoever. Actually, I'm very pleased with them. ___________________ h o p e n e v e r d i e s ----- Original Message ----- From: Konstantin Minko <ibss@ukrpack.net> To: <idm@hyperreal.org>; joe mull <agent_mully@rfbm.org> Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2000 12:18 PM Subject: (idm) Bent Crayon sucks. RE: (idm) Is Forced Exposure dead?
quoted 4 lines I begin to believe it is general way of behaviour of the online shops.> I begin to believe it is general way of behaviour of the online shops. > > I've had similar experience with Bent Crayon. I ordered from them in > September 4 CDs. They charged my Visa for $64 but the cds never arrived.
My
quoted 1 line post office says they did not receive it, bent crayon says their post> post office says they did not receive it, bent crayon says their post
office
quoted 1 line sent it. No one is guilty, except small matter - I still do not have my> sent it. No one is guilty, except small matter - I still do not have my
cds.
quoted 2 lines I asked them why they specifically charged me for insurance if they just> I asked them why they specifically charged me for insurance if they just > turned their backs on me when the problem occured but got no response
until
quoted 7 lines present day. Fuck capitalistst!> present day. Fuck capitalistst! > > Angry Alien > > np. L@N > > btw. Forced Exposure charged me for insurance as well and did not respond
to
quoted 17 lines my questions about meaning of this insurance as well. I just have to hope> my questions about meaning of this insurance as well. I just have to hope > this time the package arrives. > > > > > >I've been trying to email them for more than a month about my suspended > > >order but got nothing at all in response. Anyone knows their telephone > > >number? > > > > i think FE/jimmy et al are just dead to retail customer service > > - at least > > that's how their acting. > > i've bought a few hundred releases from them in the early 90s (my > > avant/post > > rock days) with no problems. of course there were no maintenance issues > > they had to deal w/ from me as a customer though. > > > > when i tried _one_ order from them since they began online catalogs, i
did
quoted 8 lines not receive the merchandise (UPS).> > not receive the merchandise (UPS). > > it appears that since UPS had record of delivery receipt (signed post-it > > auth for drop ship), FE chose to believe UPS and not the me, > > customer. This > > was an erroneous and very non-customer friendly assumption. > > > > FE's assumption, in accordance with non-replies and unlisted contact > > information for retail customers forces me to assume their business
focus
quoted 5 lines is centered on distribution first, and desperate retail customers last.> > is centered on distribution first, and desperate retail customers last. > > > > so i disputed my credit card charge, my credit card bank probly > > ate the $50, > > and FE considered no loss for this transaction. but i will never buy
from
quoted 3 lines FE again until they provide me with a response, specifically an> > FE again until they provide me with a response, specifically an > > explanation. > > until then i'm going to assume jimmy does not appreciate my business and
i
quoted 20 lines will stick with the old faithfuls (we all know who they are, look at any> > will stick with the old faithfuls (we all know who they are, look at any > > digest week's posts) > > > > once again, FE, i am asking (now publicly) you to explain what's > > happenning > > here, why is this trend continuing. > > > > np hrvatski sirrus minor > > > > agent mully > > icq 33102742 > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >
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2000-02-05 19:41greg davisplease dont start the "my mail order store is better than your mail order store" argument
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Re: (idm) Bent Crayon sucks. RE: (idm) Is Forced Exposure dead?
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please dont start the "my mail order store is better than your mail order store" argument again. please. we all have had our good and bad experiences with places and we usually stick to a place we are cool with. but when it comes down to it. all of these places are good because they are providing the music that we want. if they werent around, it wouldnt be so easy to get alot of this music. later, greg davis autumn records http://autumnrecords.cjb.net np: from one to three (for christian wolff) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2000-02-06 04:27tweibrecht@juno.comOn Tue, 7 Mar 2000 14:18:14 +0300 "Konstantin Minko" <ibss@ukrpack.net> writes: > I begin
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On Tue, 7 Mar 2000 14:18:14 +0300 "Konstantin Minko" <ibss@ukrpack.net> writes:
quoted 18 lines I begin to believe it is general way of behaviour of the online> I begin to believe it is general way of behaviour of the online > shops. > > I've had similar experience with Bent Crayon. I ordered from them in > September 4 CDs. They charged my Visa for $64 but the cds never > arrived. My > post office says they did not receive it, bent crayon says their > post office > sent it. No one is guilty, except small matter - I still do not have > my cds. > I asked them why they specifically charged me for insurance if they > just > turned their backs on me when the problem occured but got no > response until > present day. Fuck capitalistst! > > Angry Alien >
maybe if u were less "angry" ud get a better response.... tom w np: john cale - pablo picasso (they NEVER called him an asshole!) ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2000-03-09 08:25Konstantin MinkoFrankly, I tried all I could starting from most polite to rather angry emails. First they
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Frankly, I tried all I could starting from most polite to rather angry emails. First they replied that they cannot do anything for me (bearing in mind that they charged a shipping insurance from me) and then they stopped responding at all.
quoted 43 lines -----Original Message-----> -----Original Message----- > From: tweibrecht@juno.com [mailto:tweibrecht@juno.com] > Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2000 7:27 AM > To: ibss@ukrpack.net > Cc: idm@hyperreal.org > Subject: Re: (idm) Bent Crayon sucks. RE: (idm) Is Forced Exposure dead? > > > > > On Tue, 7 Mar 2000 14:18:14 +0300 "Konstantin Minko" <ibss@ukrpack.net> > writes: > > I begin to believe it is general way of behaviour of the online > > shops. > > > > I've had similar experience with Bent Crayon. I ordered from them in > > September 4 CDs. They charged my Visa for $64 but the cds never > > arrived. My > > post office says they did not receive it, bent crayon says their > > post office > > sent it. No one is guilty, except small matter - I still do not have > > my cds. > > I asked them why they specifically charged me for insurance if they > > just > > turned their backs on me when the problem occured but got no > > response until > > present day. Fuck capitalistst! > > > > Angry Alien > > > > maybe if u were less "angry" ud get a better response.... > > tom w > > np: john cale - pablo picasso (they NEVER called him an asshole!) > > > ________________________________________________________________ > YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! > Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! > Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.
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