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(idm) Re: david toop @ university of constance germany. june 13.

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1996-06-11 15:35multipara (idm) david toop @ university of constance germany. june 13.
└─ 1996-06-14 22:00Greg Earle (idm) Re: david toop @ university of constance germany. june 13.
1996-06-18 11:24multipara Re: (idm) Re: david toop @ university of constance germany. june 13.
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1996-06-11 15:35multiparadavid toop, author of "rap attack" and "ocean of sound", will come to germany. to be exact
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david toop, author of "rap attack" and "ocean of sound", will come to germany. to be exact, he will come to the deep south of germany, right at the swiss border, to the university of constance, on june 13. he'll hold a lecture and play records during and after it, and as is common for lectures organized by the asta beat culture commitee, there will be extensive rom for discussion. support dj will be jochen kleinhenz from wuerzburg. this is a pretty special event which i'm looking forward to... if anyone wants to come, contact me via Peter.Gebert@uni-konstanz.de greets, p.
1996-06-14 22:00Greg Earle> david toop, author of "rap attack" and "ocean of sound", will come to There's a review o
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quoted 1 line david toop, author of "rap attack" and "ocean of sound", will come to> david toop, author of "rap attack" and "ocean of sound", will come to
There's a review of "Ocean of Sound" (US $16.99 paperback) in the current edition of the L.A. Weekly (main free weekly newspaper in Los Angeles), in case anyone is interested. The book sounds interesting. Apparently Scanner is given some column inches, among other things. Sample review snippet (swiped without permission): [Snip] One of Ocean's more unsettling subjects is Robin Rimbaud, who records under the name Scanner. With his home-built tool of the same name, Rimbaud picks phone conversations out of the air and layers them into sound collages. He has released several discs, and has also performed all-night scanner excursions at the Electronic Lounge, a London club he helped organize. The idea that any conversation we have can be snatched and subsumed into a musical composition at the moment we're having it is frightening, and morally questionable besides. [Hah hah - Ed.] But listening to these records, Toop accurately notes, "is a compulsive experience" where "banal talk is revealed as a Trojan Horse carrying other levels of communication." "Ocean of Sound" is often a thrilling read, faltering only when Toop loses critical perspective. Defending against the common critical charge that most of today's Trance/Ambient scene is regressive [Shurely shome mishteak? - Ed.], the music itself too sugary to induce sleep and too repetitive to induce anything else [Duh ... - Ed.], Toop argues that this is "the 1960s'/70s'/80s' retro future rolled into a package too open, loose and scruffy to be anything other than a manifestion of real commitment and enthusiasm." But he doesn't say just what these artists and participants are so committed to/enthusiastic about. If there's a sociopolitical component to contemporary Ambient music beyond soothing the documented-to-death sense of isolation and loneliness that stalks the information superhighway [HAH HAH - Ed.], Toop fails to identify it. Maybe it's beside the point, though, to challenge "Ocean of Sound" for its periodic critical lapses. More than anything else, this is a celebration, a vindication of sorts, for a genre (or related set of genres) much maligned for its passivity and lack of depth. [I guess Mr. Reviewer hasn't learned the difference between "Ambient" and "Newage (rhymes with "sewage") - Ed.] [Snip] I, of course would NEVER stoop so low as to merely include the most contentious parts of an extremely misguided critic's review, now would I??? :-) - Greg
1996-06-18 11:24multiparaa few days ago, greg earle wrote: >There's a review of "Ocean of Sound" (US $16.99 paperba
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a few days ago, greg earle wrote:
quoted 4 lines There's a review of "Ocean of Sound" (US $16.99 paperback) in the current>There's a review of "Ocean of Sound" (US $16.99 paperback) in the current >edition of the L.A. Weekly (main free weekly newspaper in Los Angeles), in >case anyone is interested. The book sounds interesting. Apparently Scanner >is given some column inches, among other things.
it's a nice book, the lecture was great (the cd that's been released to go with the book was playing in the background), he was very open and had lots of interesting stuff to say during the discussion section and he played an excellent set afterwards, especially considering that he used no headphones. alas, there were not many people there - less than a hundred - but very many stayed until the end with eyes and ears glowing. scanner's in the book. like most of the material in the book, the parts on him are based on interview.
quoted 7 lines Sample review snippet (swiped without permission):>Sample review snippet (swiped without permission): > > [Snip] > > One of Ocean's more unsettling subjects is Robin Rimbaud, who > records under the name Scanner. With his home-built tool of the same > name, Rimbaud picks phone conversations out of the air and layers
home-built, huh? ewww. [...]
quoted 3 lines [Hah hah - Ed.] But listening to these records, Toop accurately notes,> [Hah hah - Ed.] But listening to these records, Toop accurately notes, > "is a compulsive experience" where "banal talk is revealed as a Trojan > Horse carrying other levels of communication."
"trojan horse" seems to be a favourite expression of toop... he described his book to be a trojan horse too - it appears to be a book about ambient music and sound, but it's actually about listening, and thus about music in general.
quoted 2 lines I, of course would NEVER stoop so low as to merely include the most contentious>I, of course would NEVER stoop so low as to merely include the most contentious >parts of an extremely misguided critic's review, now would I??? :-)
;-) greets, p.