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At 9:59 PM 6/10/96, Kent Williams wrote:

quoted 4 lines Here's my deep thought for the day: You can't really get anywhere sampling

>Here's my deep thought for the day: You can't really get anywhere sampling >really great shit. That stuff is so intertwined between context and >content, it's like trying to whittle pieces off of the trunk of a mahogany >tree.

what about public enemy? they seem have to done alright sampling some good music.

quoted 4 lines My all time favorite sample-fest is STILL 3 Ft High and Rising. Prince

>My all time favorite sample-fest is STILL 3 Ft High and Rising. Prince >Paul is the bomb! Those little loops from Mickey Mouse Disco? Whoa. >And the chorus built from a michael jackson hit and a Hall and Oates song? >Godhead. And the point is, he collages with lightweight stuff.

yeah but although he's good i think he's more of a "novelty" thing. you know. the hall 'n' oates track got really old really fast. on the other hand, "night of the living bassheads" still sends shivers down my spine every damn time i hear it. hmmm... -jon OnNow: Public Enemy - It Takes A Nation Of Millions To Hold Us Back -- Name: Jon Email: jsd@cyborganic.com Web: http://www.cyborganic.com/bass-kittens/

On Tue, 11 Jun 1996, Jon Drukman wrote:

quoted 9 lines At 9:59 PM 6/10/96, Kent Williams wrote:

> At 9:59 PM 6/10/96, Kent Williams wrote: > >Here's my deep thought for the day: You can't really get anywhere sampling > >really great shit. That stuff is so intertwined between context and > >content, it's like trying to whittle pieces off of the trunk of a mahogany > >tree. > > what about public enemy? they seem have to done alright sampling some good > music. >

Well, I don't remember their sampling being really overt, in that I can regognize sources. If you have specifics you want to mention bring 'em on. And as for De La Soul being a 'novelty' thing, i'd say that they are jokey, but the music is dead on on 3 ft. Most rap acts get one loop and work it forever. Prince Paul takes 7 or 8 samples and strings together a sequence that hangs togother as a new piece of music. As goofy as 'tread water' is lyrically I can listen to it over and over again. It's also a cut my 7 year old can do all the lyrics for. Lucas in full effect boyee! --------------------------------------------------------------------- Check the lame home page http://soli.inav.net/~kent/ Kent Williams kent@inav.net CADSI 2651 Crosspark Road Coralville IA 52241 (319) 338 6053 (home) (319) 626 6700 x 219 (work) (319) 626 3489 (fax)

quoted 5 lines what about public enemy? they seem have to done alright sampling some good

>> what about public enemy? they seem have to done alright sampling some good >> music. >> >Well, I don't remember their sampling being really overt, in that I can >regognize sources. If you have specifics you want to mention bring 'em on.

"Rebel without a Pause" has the "Funky Drummer" break going all the way through it, "Terminator X to the Edge of Panic" has Queen's theme from 'Flash Gordon,' "Party for your Right to Fight" has those Beastie samples, "Fight the Power" has that "I Shot the Sheriff" sample (right?), and "She Watch Channel Zero?!" samples the same Slayer riff that KMFDM did on "Godlike"... 'course, whether any of this constitutes "sampling some good music" is up to you. C. -- cspot@hyperreal.com (Chris.Hilker)